r , and for the next few akua, and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. and of course it's yours . we'll be course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly, an also broadcaster and author christine hamilton in a few moments time, we'll be going head to head in the clash with a gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson , and commentator nigel nelson, and also writer, columnist and journalist emma wolf. coming up at four, i'll share my thoughts in nana. nigel on sadiq khan's behaviour after securing another term as london mayor and why i think it needs to grow up. then at five, my outside guests where we talk highs, lows and lessons learned on what comes next on the outside . while my mystery the outside. while my mystery guest this week is a well known author and commentator , and author and commentator, and she's no stranger to a spot of fortune telling, ummathur and princess diana and george michael were amongst her clients . she'll be here live now. this

caught my eye this week. >> don't you make me dizzy from your kisses. >> will you take my hand? it's been. >> yes. it's all in the name of eurovision. of course. that's to come. but before we get started, let's get your latest news with sam francis . sam francis. >> nana, thank you very much. and good afternoon to you . it's and good afternoon to you. it's just after 3:00. the top story from the newsroom this hour . from the newsroom this hour. former home secretary suella braverman has told gb news that rishi sunak needs to urgently change course following what she called dire local election results. the prime minister has promised to take the fight to labour despite losing 397 council seats and losing control of ten councils. miss braverman says mr sunak must now make bold decisions. >> there's no time to change leaders, so the prime minister is going to be leading us into

the next general election, whether we like it or not. what he needs to do to salvage this dire situation is to accept the enormity of the problem. these terrible . results, and quickly terrible. results, and quickly and urgently change course. so make sure that there are meaningful tax cuts that people can feel and benefit from. put a cap on legal migration. take us out of the european convention on human rights so that we actually stop the boats and make sure that we reclaim our streets back from the extremists , suella back from the extremists, suella braverman there. >> well, meanwhile , transport >> well, meanwhile, transport secretary mark harper told us today it's time to rally around the leader. >> i think all conservatives now need to get behind the prime minister. as the chairman said in his article this morning, and take that message to the country. we see from the analysis the experts have done that. the results show that the position is closer than the polls are suggesting. so it's everything is delightful for the next election, and we're absolutely up for that fight .

absolutely up for that fight. >> staying with news from this week's local election , sadiq week's local election, sadiq khan has now begun his third term as london mayor after securing a majority of 275,000 votes over his conservative rival, susan hall. mr khan has accused the tories of running what he called a campaign of fear mongering and non—stop negativity, and said london has rejected hard right wing populism. miss hall, rejected hard right wing populism. miss hall , though, is populism. miss hall, though, is urging sadiq khan to reform the metropolitan police and to make london safe again. mayor khan says he's excited for the future londoners want to see a change in government and what they're excited about is the chance of a labour mayor working with a labour mayor working with a labour government led by keir starmer. >> i'm excited the last time that happened was 20 years ago and us working together, keir the cabinet, a labour mayor. londoners will see a transformed city. i can't wait . city. i can't wait. >> sir keir starmer says he's determined to win back the trust of voters who have turned away from the labour party over its

stance on gaza. they lost some council seats to independents and to george galloway's workers party of britain during the local elections. pat mcfadden is vice chair of labour friends of israel, and he told us the party will support palestinians in government. >> but two things have guided our position all along . one is our position all along. one is the one that you just mentioned, which is israel's right to defend itself after the appalling attacks on october the 7th that will remain. we will stick up for that. but we also want to see a better future for the palestinian people. and if we were to be elected at the coming election , that would be a coming election, that would be a big foreign policy priority for us. >> us. >> a ten year old girl has died and four other people have been hospitalised after a house fire in bradford. emergency services were called to kingsdale drive in the early hours of this morning. we understand a woman and three children did manage to escape the property with non—life threatening injuries. the young girl, though, was

pronounced dead at the scene. police have now confirmed that fire is not being treated as suspicious . fire is not being treated as suspicious. in other fire is not being treated as suspicious . in other news, we've suspicious. in other news, we've heard today that a man has been arrested on suspicion of organising people trafficking, people trafficking rather across the english channel. the 38 year old, who claims to be an iraqi, was detained in preston in the early hours of this morning. it relates to crossings that were made in november and december of last year . he made in november and december of last year. he was detained as part of an investigation into an organised crime network. meanwhile, another small boat crossed into uk waters today with at least 50 people on board. it brings the total number of crossings so far this year to now more than 8500. that's 35% higher than the same penod that's 35% higher than the same period in 2023. ministers are blaming the increase in numbers on a surge in migrants, they say, from vietnam , and water say, from vietnam, and water suppues say, from vietnam, and water supplies are now gradually being restored to thousands of homes in saint leonards and in

hastings after a weekend without running water there. it follows a burst pipe in remote woodland on thursday night. a burst pipe in remote woodland on thursday night . southern on thursday night. southern water has issued an apology to customers in east sussex , as customers in east sussex, as more than 30,000 properties suffered their fourth day of disruption. in a statement, the firm have said in the last hour that they do hope the full return of supplies to homes and businesses will happen between now and tomorrow morning. those are the headlines i'll be back in half an hour with another update. until then, you can sign update. until then, you can sign up to gb news alerts. just scan the code on your screen or go to gb news. common alerts. >> thank you sam. it's fast approaching seven minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. before we get stuck into the debates over this hour, let me introduce you to michael asher's gb news senior political commentator , nigel nelson, and commentator, nigel nelson, and also writer, columnist and journalist . also writer, columnist and journalist. emma woolf. right. so here's what's coming up as a

republican rally hits london ahead of the first anniversary of the king charles coronation is the monarchy still relevant or actually, is it needed then? sadiq khan wins a historic third term as london mayor, saying he answered hate with hope. we still actually need mayors. and as thousands of migrants flee the uk to reach dublin on the brexit express, which is what they're calling it , is the they're calling it, is the rwanda deterrent actually working and after cyclist who crashed into a pensioner avoids prosecution after the 81 year old dies because apparently speed limits don't apply, should they? plus, women , would you they? plus, women, would you rather bump into a bear or a man if you were alone in the woods? the results of the viral internet sensation are in, and the result might take you by surprise. as ever, tell me what you think on everything we're discussing, go to gb news. com forward slash uk . right, let's forward slash uk. right, let's get started . let's welcome again

get started. let's welcome again to mike lashes, gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson and also writer, columnist and journalist emma wolfe. right. so it's been a dire weekend for the tories as well, isn't it? i mean, i don't want to laugh. i don't know whether to cry. i think they're probably crying and a shock loss last night, after labour's richard parker defeated the tory incumbent , richard parker defeated the tory incumbent, andy richard parker defeated the tory incumbent , andy street, to incumbent, andy street, to become the mayor of the west midlands . meanwhile, of course, midlands. meanwhile, of course, london's mayor sadiq khan won a third term as mayor of london. another shock given the levels of knife crime in the capital, some might say, and here's reform uk mp lee anderson commenting on this very subject on my show yesterday. >> well, i've got to be careful , >> well, i've got to be careful, what i say about the labour mayor, i don't want to give him too much of a hard time, but it's absolutely useless. it's been a disaster for this country. it's been a disaster for london, and it needs belting out at the next mayoral election in four years time. it's an absolute disaster for our capital city, and you'll see

over the next four years what he does to that city. rob a motorist blind knife crime will go up, violent crime will go up, and there'll be sneering away in his ivory tower. and i will keep calling him out . calling him out. >> so i'm asking, do we still need mayors ? nigel? emma, what need mayors? nigel? emma, what do you think? i'll start with you, nigel nelson. yeah i mean, a lot of people argue that the mayors don't really do that much in london. a lot of us haven't seen much from sadiq khan, apart from things we don't really like . and in other parts of the country, they seem quite, quite useful , like andy country, they seem quite, quite useful, like andy burnham and people like that. so what is your view on that? because lee seems to think that they're just, you know, grabbing for power. >> it depends on how you feel about devolution, that if you have devolution and i rather like it, the idea of getting power as near to the people who are being ruled by it is a good idea. >> so mayors do do a lot . so the >> so mayors do do a lot. so the london mayor, for instance, is also the police and crime commissioner. also the police and crime commissioner . yeah. and the same commissioner. yeah. and the same goes for the manchester mayor, the mayors in yorkshire. they take on those roles. they deal

with transport, they deal with business, the local economy . and business, the local economy. and if it all is working properly , if it all is working properly, it means that local people get their needs met in a way national government can't do. that's why i think mayors are really good. they run a combined authority, which means a group of councils getting around the mayor, the mayor chairs it. the councils can vote him down, but it takes a two thirds majority. but you're actually getting everything near to the people who actually actually have to use the services. >> but doesn't it depend , >> but doesn't it depend, though, on the style of that london mayor, though? because if you look at someone like andy burnham, he's on the street, he's there with the people . you he's there with the people. you know, he's he's a visible presence and he's not surrounded by lots of, marketing executives and security cars and all the stuff that you see. khan. >> sadiq khan well, i mean, sadiq is on on the streets, too. i mean, you're absolutely right. he does have some security because of threats against him, but i mean , a lot of politicians

but i mean, a lot of politicians do. i mean, that's the that is kind of goes with the job. so he does do stuff. now, whether you think he's a good mayor or a bad mayor is a sort of different kind of question, clearly londoners thought the local elections that they preferred him over the alternative. >> emma woolf. >> emma woolf. >> well , in theory, >> emma woolf. >> well, in theory, i agree >> emma woolf. >> well , in theory, i agree with nigel. >> i like the idea of devolution. >> i like the idea of getting, you know, local management of a of an area closer to the people. but firstly, i don't think most people can name their mayor across the country. we seem to be obsessed with this thing. we've gone from a few mayors to mayors everywhere, everywhere you can. you know, everywhere you can. you know, everywhere you can. you know, everywhere you can see. and in terms of sadiq khan specifically, i'm a londoner. i was born and raised in this, in this city, and pretty much my whole life i've lived and worked here. and i can tell you, yes, london is still was pretty much the greatest city on earth. it's a wonderful place, but it has gone downhill rapidly. it has in the last eight years we have seen a real decline and also just a sense of depression and dirt and crime

and lawlessness and despair amongst londoners, amongst people who live and work in this city. so i don't think that sadiq khan is good news for london. it's astonishing to me that he's been voted in for this historic third term, where you have good mayors like you say, andy burnham, andy street was obviously no one has said a bad word about andy street. he's he's obviously, you know, did a fantastic for , job for the west fantastic for, job for the west midlands, but i think my worry is that these mayors can often just be adding another layer of bureaucracy, another layer. well, big, big salaries, all of their entourage, all of the thing that surrounds the mayoralty. so i think if you asked, should we keep mayors , asked, should we keep mayors, you know, do we need mayors labour today, after the last three days would say an emphatic yes. and the tories would say an emphatic no. we don't need mayors anymore. you know, we didn't just suffer a massive, massive defeat across the country . country. >> it's unfortunate, isn't it? but the tory party, unfortunately, it's the way that they have behaved and they have

had their own 80 seat majority and have appeared to have squandered it. but we were talking about them in the next houn talking about them in the next hour, next up, the anti—monarchy pressure group republic are holding a rally in trafalgar square this afternoon ahead of the first anniversary of the king charles's coronation, which is, of course , tomorrow. are the is, of course, tomorrow. are the monarchy still relevant, or are they actually needed? i'll start with you, emma woolf do you think? what are you ? are you a think? what are you? are you a monarchist or republican? a kind of lukewarm , vaguely proud of of lukewarm, vaguely proud of our i don't know. >> did we ever need the monarchy? i don't think we actually need them. you don't think? i don't think we need them. but i think do we want them? is the more relevant question. i don't think that we need these people to live in palaces and to open, you know, garden fetes and to do all of that. i think tourists would still flock to london with or without the palaces , i think. without the palaces, i think. >> but what would they come to see if do you mean? we'd have the historical context of it, but not them? >> the historical context. you could have other people running them, running, running the palaces if you wanted to. so i don't think we need them. but i don't think we need them. but i do think there's been a sort of change of mood towards the, towards the monarchy in the last. well, certainly over the last. well, certainly over the last few months, but in the last

few years since the, since the queen died, i think there was a, you know, a real upswelling of affection for her. and then everybody's been surprised by charles and that kind of warming to him. and then, of course, with the two big diagnoses , the with the two big diagnoses, the two big announcements about cancen two big announcements about cancer, i genuinely care and genuinely feel, anxiety and affection for catherine and wonder how she is because we haven't heard anything . and with haven't heard anything. and with charles two, i think i think, i think the public i think those two. and they don't need to be young and funky and relevant. but i think, you know, the fact that charles is in his mid 70s and catherine's much younger. i think people really care about them and want them and want them around. it is an outdated institution though. i mean, that's the whole point. >> i mean, it's tradition , of >> i mean, it's tradition, of course, it's not meant to be of the day. it's a tradition, i know, but it's 2024 and i do have some reservations about these people living at vast in luxury and wealth at the taxpayer's expense, nigel. but but they're a net benefit in the end, though, aren't they? people coming here? they don't cost us anything. >> yeah. i go with it with the last bit that emma said that, as

as i've said to you before, i'm not a royalist, but i am a monarchist . but, and i think the monarchist. but, and i think the big the big palace is the amount of land they have, that kind of thing. yes, that's probably outmoded . no, i don't think outmoded. no, i don't think that, monarch is outload is outmoded. the question comes down to if you didn't have a monarch as head of state, who would you have? so what we have, which tony blair, well, you indeed you could. you could end up with a president. tony blair, you're absolutely right. so what we have at the moment is we have a non—political head of state that makes our constitution run properly. it creates certain anomalies. you need a house of lords to go with that, because you have to keep the hereditary principle all going, because the monarch is hereditary , blair monarch is hereditary, blair tried to get rid of that and found he couldn't for that reason . so if you think your reason. so if you think your head of state needs to be above politics, and especially not a politician , then then there is politician, then then there is no alternative but to have a

king or queen. >> and in a way it sort of makes sense as well, because they're not worried about finance, so they're unlikely to be swayed by any sort of bribes or anything like that. >> they don't get elected. >> they don't get elected. >> there's no elections, so there's no chance that they're going to try and swindle or do anything. they're, they're they're naturally by birth. so they're naturally by birth. so they can either choose to hold they can either choose to hold the position or not. that's got to be i think there's always a place for something like that. right. or or we go back to these tiny little kingdoms, you know, west mercia and all of that, and we devolve, we really go down the devolution route and we have lots of little areas. >> we don't have a president or a prime minister. i mean, at the moment, lots of us feel that we'd quite like to get rid of the entire umbrella of government and just have everything governed by king alfred was a good king. >> he was exactly interesting. >> he was exactly interesting. >> well, what do you think? are you are you somebody who loves the monarchy? do you think they actually need them? is it an outdated concept? get in touch, vaiews@gbnews.uk . or why not go vaiews@gbnews.uk. or why not go to gbnews.com/yoursay for your thoughts? it's just coming up to 17 minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua. welcome on board. if you're just tuned in, this is gb news. we're live on tv , online

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? good 7 good afternoon. 20 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. we are live. this is the clash. i'm nana akua. i said that already. i think a marathon, but a growing trend has emerged on the belfast to dublin coach route, now dubbed the brexit express. honestly, due to the increasing number of asylum seekers using it to flee the uk and seek refuge in ireland. it's also supposedly down to the uk's rwanda bill. it's causing real tensions, of course, because between the uk and ireland, who are promising to return them to

the uk by the end of the month. that's interesting. so it seems that no one wants to go to rwanda. so is rwanda actually a deterrent that is working? joining me now , nigel nelson and joining me now, nigel nelson and also emma woolf, nigel nelson, is it working? no. why are you saying no when people are honestly fleeing one part? >> because that wasn't what it was meant to deter. the whole idea was not to actually send people to ireland. >> well, no. no, but that's a by—product. we can't tell them where they go deters them from coming here. >> these are people who are actually here at the moment. >> yes, but deterring them from staying , but the ones we want to staying, but the ones we want to deter are the people crossing in the boats from calais to dover. well, won't that deter the people crossing in the boats? it's not i mean, well, it will eventually. i mean, look , if one eventually. i mean, look, if one part of it's working, how can you not? >> but if this is happening in ireland, why is it not happening in the channel? >> well, maybe it will start happening in the channel. well, 711 i mean, i think we had on the news 5050 have just crossed seven 711 on wednesday. >> we have the highest number for, for the first three months

of this year that we've had that we've had before. rwanda has not deterred them, but maybe they're coming to the uk to then go to ireland, are now that could which would be an interesting idea because , therefore we can idea because, therefore we can rightly say that the last country, the last safe country, a migrant comes to is the country that should be responsible for them. so they pass through france to get here, to claim asylum here. so all the people who said send them back to france were completely wrong, because what they've done is they've come here and they've gone on to ireland. whether this is to do so. >> what are you saying? they should stay in the uk? >> no, they should stay in ireland. i mean, if they. >> because we're not safe, according to the irish anyway, we're an unsafe country so they can't stay. >> that's one of the reasons they may have gone there , that they may have gone there, that it's a bit unclear from the figures whether rwanda is the reason they're going or they're going, because they're is a duty by the irish government to give them free housing. in fact, what they get is a tent, so they don't get the free housing, and they may say that that rwanda is

behind it, but then they know that they can't be sent back to britain because we are an unsafe country, according to the irish high court. >> yeah, but you just said that they're probably going there for they're probably going there for the housing. so you are aware that they're just taking the mickey out of the system ? mickey out of the system? >> well, i'm aware that they're going there. nobody seems to be absolutely certain why there's been a sudden spike in the number of people going. now, all we do know is it does coincide with the rwanda policy going through . through. >> you can't give them anything, can you, emma? >> well, look, people traffickers are not idiots. so if there are these loopholes, if rwanda, which i mean, ijust think it's i would say agreeing with nigel, it's been a farce of a policy. and look how long it's taking to push through, even when it is actually up and running, when those first flights are actually, we've already seen people fleeing the kind of detention process, all of that, people trying to be prepared to be deported to rwanda . the cost of it alone rwanda. the cost of it alone makes it an utterly ludicrous policy, as opposed to 11 million

a day. but as opposed to no, we cannot be spending over £500 million on it's not going, we're not going to get thousands of people back to off to rwanda . people back to off to rwanda. that's not going to work. but that's because people traffickers are not idiots. so they will if this is a genuine loophole. but i also wonder you know, they will have worked that out and they will then be travelling down from belfast down to dublin. i wonder how many of them if this is the reason that we've seen this spike, how many are going to carry on filling up because dublin, going to dublin or going to ireland is not the same in terms of the motivation factor for them as coming to mainland britain, you know, as coming to the to, to, to london or to find places here to find work here. so i just think whatever is going on here. >> but but don't you think that the sums that you're adding up and saying it's not. oh, it's so expensive, are you factoring in the fact that they'll bring their family and their kids and everything else, and in the end they will do lots of numerous

appeals if they fail their appeal. have you factored that into your calculation to say that rwanda is too expensive, or are you just simply working it out on the basis of one person? >> i don't think many people are going to get off to get sent back, get sent to rwanda. but i don't think not many flights , don't think not many flights, but not with the general attitude that we have in this country. >> no. and the people traffickers, the smugglers must be laughing when they see this. we could have at least got behind our government to try and do something, because we will need a third country. >> but the people traffickers can watch the news, they can follow politics at whatever level as much as we can. they can see it's a chaotic thing. they can see that we're on the brink, that our government is on the brink of falling apart. the rwanda government, the people who who championed this scheme so , so. so, so. >> but aren't we the ones that are making sure that it's on the bnnk are making sure that it's on the brink because we will need a third country? because what do you do with a migrant who fails their asylum? no, i really sorry. what would you do with the migrant who fails asylum? so they can't and that you don't know where they've come back from, or they can't go to the countries they're meant to go to. we will need a third country. >> i just make one quick point. i want those millions , millions

i want those millions, millions and millions to be spent. and i've said this all along dealing with the problems outsourced, deaung with the problems outsourced, dealing with people before they leave their home countries, before they leave their own countries. >> come on. »- >> come on. >> because we don't want to have them over here. and then we're pushing back the boats and putting them on flights and housing them, and then chasing them around the country , which them around the country, which is dealing with endless legal appeals when we give the money, would be better spent. >> do you think that when we give money in foreign aid or foreign aid as a whole, but that's where the money will be coming from to these countries to deal with. but if you hold on, do you think that that money goes to those people? no. does it no. >> foreign aid is a massively corrupt system. it's massively corrupt. it's often loans. >> so what are you suggesting? how are we supposed to deal with it ? outsourced. well, it's not it? outsourced. well, it's not really our problem in a better way. >> not the foreign aid budget . >> not the foreign aid budget. just instead of spending it on stupid schemes like that . stupid schemes like that. >> a problem though, is it? why is why is what's going on in congo or somewhere else? or why is that always the problem of the united kingdom? why do we not? >> it's a worldwide problem. everyone is suffering from that. we. you're saying deal with it at source. >> we can't deal with the entire world. >> we suffer from it less than

most european countries. france, germany , italy, spain have far germany, italy, spain have far more asylum seekers coming into their countries than we do. if you tackle it at source, which is what emma's talking about, if you had a proper settlement scheme, that would deter people from crossing the channel, they don't want to cross the channel, they might drown. so no, i don't think they care about that. >> i think they're more interested in the house and the food and the money and all the things that we give them. when they come here, they're going to come anyway. >> they don't have to claim asylum on british soil, which is the current system. they could claim asylum from, say, a refugee camp. >> so then we still take them. so. so wherever they are, they can claim asylum, but still. >> hang on. i mean, all you say we don't take any asylum seekers at all? >> no, i'm saying that we take genuine asylum seekers because we're talking about send people back who aren't asylum seekers to rwanda, send them back to rwanda. exactly we don't because of people, i think, like you and even you, nigel, who will literally put down, yes, you in particular, who will put down any policy. you're saying rwanda is too expensive? i'm saying it's a balloon. it's a stupid policy. >> i'm not saying any policy. >> i'm not saying any policy. >> when you use rwanda as a

place for asylum seekers to go, we need a third country. so whether it's rwanda or somewhere else, we need a third country. >> but demonstrably it hasn't worked. it has failed in that it has taken well, it's working in ireland , but nobody seems to ireland, but nobody seems to accept that it is working in this country. >> and people who are here, asylum seekers, are coming here and leaving this country because they're scared of rwanda . well, they're scared of rwanda. well, but if that's true and we don't know, that's what the irish government is saying. so i'm going to take it. >> but they want to blame us. i mean, the irish, the irish government have a lot of problems with their own people about migration policy, but that's the problem. >> even a bit of positive news in a way, for the united kingdom, where we can see something we've initiated, appears to be working . that's appears to be working. that's not accepted either. you don't believe that's any sort of. well, we don't know. i mean, we don't know anything. really. no. i mean, do you do that? you can do everything. >> we don't know if rwanda would work. we don't know if it won't work. we don't know if it won't work. we don't know if it won't work. we haven't got evidence really, either way. but but emma's right. don't then spend spend £500 million on something. there's no evidence for . there's no evidence for. >> well, there is a little bit of evidence, but you're ignoring it. you're ignoring any evidence i >> -- >> but you were saying it's not our problem. why should we deal with the problems in the congo? whatever. but it is our problem when we when we are overwhelmed .

when we when we are overwhelmed. >> but that was in response to you saying that we need to deal with the problem at source. and i'm saying, well, i think it would be how on earth, how on earth can we go to every single country that comes and try and deal with their problems? we've got enough of our own. well, we can have international diplomacy. >> you have refugee refugee camps, especially in the middle east, where if that's where people are coming from, that's where they go in the first instance. but we have a settlement there. problems. >> is it that simply putting a refugee camp in their place? that's right. that country. but that doesn't solve their problems. you're saying solve their problems at source. >> but if you if you if you do solve it that well, if you start that way but you're not. >> so you're not saying solving their problems. you're saying just put a refugee camp in. >> solving the problem at source is a different is a different matter from actually how you deal with the cross—channel migrants. so if that's part of it was what emma are saying that you will solve the problem. >> it is to stop them from coming here. so what are their problems? and i'm saying how can we deal with the world's problems? >> war and famine, war , famine, poverty. >> we should, we should. >> we should, we should. >> the world should deal with it should be a global issue. so we actually work with partner

countries to try and deal with that. then on the on the refugee camps, we have a settlement scheme. so those who are genuine asylum seekers can come here, but it means they don't have to cross the channel. >> i hear you, but you must know that that's not going to stop this. >> it's not easy. >> it's not easy. it's >> it's not easy. it's not >> it's not easy. it's not going to work. one thing is for sure. i think we need a pause on asylum. >> right now. i think we need a pause on asylum until we have sorted out our home office. >> absolutely. the pause on asylum. we need to keep the rwanda plan we have, and then we can add to different schemes to try and make it work. but getting rid of it altogether with no viable alternative . with no viable alternative. apart from this wonderful notion that you're going to solve the world's problems at source. so then they'll stop coming here. i just don't think it's realistic. and i think that is the problem with a lot of people on the left. and looks like i've got two of them here. no way. you just join me. get out of here. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. still to come . at four. akua. still to come. at four. i have a niggle at the childish behaviour of mayor khan . and behaviour of mayor khan. and then after a cyclist who crashed into pensioner avoids prosecution should speed limits

apply to cyclists. but first let's get your latest news headunes. headlines. >> very good afternoon from the newsroom. it'sjust >> very good afternoon from the newsroom. it's just gone. 331 and a recap of the headlines this hour . and a recap of the headlines this hour. former home and a recap of the headlines this hour . former home secretary this hour. former home secretary suella braverman has told gb news today that rishi sunak needs to urgently change course, following what she called the dire local election results. the prime minister has now promised to take the fight to labour, despite the conservatives losing hundreds of seats, with labour, the liberal democrats and independents all making gains. mr braverman says rishi sunak must make bold decisions today. >> there's no time to change leaders, so the prime minister is going to be leading us into the next general election , the next general election, whether we like it or not. what he needs to do to salvage this dire situation is to accept the enormity of the problem, these terrible results, and quickly and urgently change course. so

make sure that there are meaningful tax cuts that people can feel and benefit from. put a cap on legal migration. take us out of the european convention on human rights so that we actually stop the boats and make sure that we reclaim our streets back from the extremists, suella braverman there speaking to us earlier this morning. >> well, in other news today, a ten year old girl has died and four other people have been hospitalised after a house fire in bradford. emergency services were called to kingsdale drive in the early hours of this morning . a woman and three morning. a woman and three children did manage to escape the property with non—life threatening injuries. the girl, though, was pronounced dead at the scene. police have now confirmed that the fire is not being treated as suspicious . being treated as suspicious. a man's been arrested on suspicion of organising people trafficking across the english channel. the 38 year old, who claims to be an iraqi, was detained in preston this morning. it relates to the crossings that were made in november and december last year. he was detained as part of an

investigation into an organised crime network. and finally, some news coming into us in just the last few minutes that actor bernard hill, best known for his roles in titanic and the lord of the rings trilogy, has died, his agent confirmed. it comes just hours before the release of his latest project, season two of the drama the responders, with martin freeman. fans of the late cinema icon have been sharing their tributes on social media while also honouring their favourite performances from his career. for the latest stories , career. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code there on your screen or go to our website gb news. common alerts . alerts. >> good afternoon. this is gb news on tv , online and on news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up after a cyclist who crashed into a pensioner avoids prosecution should speed limits apply to cyclists? that's next. don't go

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welcome back. 37 minutes after 3:00. if you've just tuned in. welcome. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. where? live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua now. before the news, we were talking about migration. lots of you have been getting in touch. we were asking whether we thought rwanda was actually working, louise burke says. louise says let's all move to dublin. blue passports secures that and says, and i ask your guests, how many illegals have they taken in? really? i would love to hear their reply. are you? let me see. nigel, how many have you taken in? >> i'm checking in on him. >> i'm checking in on him. >> and you? >> and you? >> i haven't taken in any. i don't understand the question. that's what? >> she's the problem now. that is the question. that was the question. a simple question. that's what she asked me to ask you. i've asked you, phil says, oh, no, another tinfoil hat wearer, that's a part of the problem in the uk. i think you

must be talking about you. i think you probably is . think you probably is. >> thanks, phil. >> thanks, phil. >> and then brenda has solved the problem at source. laughable. does that mean that we can solve all the problems in countries like iran? and that's just one example. but when it arrives on our shores, it becomes our problem. yeah, but i think he's making a valid point that we can't solve the problems, can we? we can't solve what the world's problems and that's the issue. keep your thoughts coming. gb news. com no gbnews.com forward slash your say. it's great because you can see the comments that everybody else is also making as well. and you can contribute to that. but next a cyclist who collided with a pensioner couldn't be prosecuted because speed limits don't apply to bicycles. now the man was going 29mph doing timed laps of regent's park in london when 81 year old hilda griffiths crossed the road they were on to try to reach a pedestrian island. now the legal speed limit there is 20mph and tragically 59 days after the incident, miss griffiths died from head injuries from the complications of the head injury that she incurred. but the

cyclists couldn't be prosecuted because speed limits on roads only apply to mechanically propelled vehicles and not to cyclists. wow so what do you think? should they apply to cyclists? joining me now ? gb cyclists? joining me now? gb news is senior political commentator nigel nelson. and also writer, columnist and journalist emma woolf emma woolf. i'm starting with you. >> i am a cyclist and i cycled through regent's park regularly most days, and i see these pelotons , doing these pelotons, doing these incredibly, that's not to say credibly . peloton bike. credibly. peloton bike. >> he was. >> he was. >> oh he was, he was he was doing these. yes, he was one of these sunday morning cruise or weekend cruise that they go round and he was doing nearly 30 miles an hour. and when you are heading at that speed and these cyclists are very, very fast and if you hit a fragile or a frail or a child or anyone or anyone, anyone, anyone, and they hit the road. yeah, then they are in trouble. and you can cause injury and you can, as we've seen , you can cause death. so seen, you can cause death. so i would absolutely support the idea of, of i mean, i wouldn't have these pelotons in a, in a

pubuc have these pelotons in a, in a public park. regent's park is why specifically that but particularly around i mean obviously we don't there are other bikes that are available. >> yeah . they do the similar >> yeah. they do the similar thing. yeah, yeah. >> no no no. what >> no no no. what >> you sort of highlighted that one. >> no i'm saying that there are many , many that there are many many, many that there are many responsible cyclists who absolutely follow the law. but you have a few dangerous cyclists, just like you have a few dangerous drivers who aren't looking out , who aren't looking out, who aren't signalling, who aren't letting people. i mean, you cannot just cycle at that speed where there are pedestrians. the woman was crossing the road. she was trying to. you have the inner circle. yeah. and so people are still using the roads within the sort of perimeter of the park. so i just don't i just don't want this to give cyclists because cyclists get such a bad rap. and i'm just saying there are many, many, many responsible cyclists and there are many, many responsible drivers and dangerous drivers. >> nigel, do you think speed limits should apply to cyclists after all, they are road users and using it. so why on earth are they getting a free? >> i agree with everything emma said there. yes, of course they should apply and the law needs to be completely tightened up. so at the moment this guy could

only have been charged with an old victorian offence of furious cycling had he been convicted of that. that was two years in prison. what grant shapps when he was transport secretary, tried to do in 2022 was introduced death by dangerous cycling on a par with death by dangerous driving. i remember that and that would have carried a life sentence, a five year ban from riding a bike. those kind of deterrents are the ones that should be brought in. they never found parliamentary time to do it. i think it's a disgrace that they didn't. that's the kind of they didn't. that's the kind of the laws must go, must, must go along with all vehicles. and it doesn't matter whether they're mechanical, as seems to be the technical thing or whether it's just a pushbike if they're breaking the law and if they're if they're killing people, then the riders should be brought to book. >> but it's absurd that he could have got off on the strength of that surely common sense would say, well, no, you've you somebody died as a result of

your behaviour. exactly. so whether or not there's a law that says that that is that's manslaughter, surely. why is that not manslaughter? you've gone on there deliberately cycling. you didn't mean somebody to die, but as a result of what you've done, they have. yeah. the answer to that is it's manslaughter. i don't understand why that's not manslaughter. anyway, irrespective of i also think we need to update and move with the times because we've got a lot of people cycling around this and scooting around this city on e—scooters and e—bikes. >> and i know elderly people who feel terrified, who won't walk by the canal. >> well, that might be covered because it's got sort of a motor, hasn't it? >> yeah, they have got motorised. yeah, but they don't have id, they don't have any kind of, license plate on. so people can use these e—scooters, e—bikes, they often use them on the pavements . they're weaving the pavements. they're weaving in and out of the pavement, weaving in and out of traffic. they can cause major, major rose road hazards. so i think the whole thing needs to be updated. >> i think i would go further, i'd make them wear license plates and i would insist they have insurance. i don't see why i agree with you. if you're on a road. yeah. why is it that you can be on a road and you can just cycle away like that? you should have insurance, you should have insurance, you should have insurance, you should have some way of people

identifying who you are, especially if you cause incident or damage to somebody else. i think we need to move forward and i'm with you. we do need to move and you'd be banned from cycling if you commit an offence. >> but i'd also like us to crack down on drivers using mobile phones, because i see that all every single day i see drivers glancing at their phone, massive trucks. >> they still that is a law though. >> i mean, it is a law. it is a law, but it's not enforced. >> yeah, well, i think it is if you get caught doing it, but it's just i don't know how you can deliberately catch, you can catch people, although apparently there's some sort of eye cameras that can catch, can see inside people's cars. there are. do we want that though? do you really want an eye camera that can see inside? i mean, if you're using your mobile phone, you're using your mobile phone, you want to catch the people who are doing it. >> so i think that's five points on your license or something like that for, for being being there's a fairly hefty fine. yeah. so yeah i mean we're in a different, different, different area here. but of course you shouldn't use your mobile phone while driving. >> but some people and somebody just told me that they have, they've been fined for that. they had in australia. they had them already in australia. do we need to bring something like that here? well, i would actually go further and i would say, you don't have your mobile phone. >> i don't care if it's on your dashboard or anything. you shouldn't be glancing at. no, you shouldn't be glancing at

screens when you are driving. your attention needs to be on the road and on the people around you. >> that's not realistic though, because some people i use mine as a satnav. >> yeah, i know you do. i know lots of people do. but you are staring at a map. you're looking at that. you're completely distracted from the road users. and as a cyclist, i am. but it's very, very frightening when someone is not looking at the road. >> it would be worse if i'm, you know, when you're behind a driver that doesn't know where they're going because they're trying to read the signs on the road, i think that would be slightly worse. you've got a satnav. so i think if you're using your phone as a satnav or anything, that is a satnav, i mean, that's just most cars are built with that. that's never going to happen. >> your attention is not on the road. >> well, your attention will be on where you're going, but it won't be on everything else. >> and it will tell you where where you're going. people did right turn left or whatever, but like, listen to the radio. >> you think you should listen to it. and then some people, some people don't know the rights and lefts, even though the wheel will be on the steering wheel will be on the right. >> people used to get around. well, they shouldn't be driving around before satnavs and tom toms and screens. >> also still used run people >> also still used to run people over and cyclists and everything, so don't think it everything, so i don't think it makes much difference. i think it's how you drive and but the question is, do cyclists, i mean, and let's talk about cyclists know, whether cyclists now, you know, whether they that they should be the ones that

should actually more should actually have more responsibility , be more of responsibility, be more of a burden of responsibility on the roads? >> like i said, there are lots and lots of really irresponsible. there are some irresponsible. there are some irresponsible cyclists, but there are plenty of very responsible cyclists who stop at red lights and who, you know, extend courtesy to other road as you go along with the idea of a licensing scheme for cyclists. >> i don't think there's anything wrong with having a license plate on my bike, and i would then be identified if i was running through red lights. >> yeah, i think i should watch out for you. >> yeah, i think that should be. i think it should be. i don't know why people haven't done it. and i'm wondering it may be in sir keir starmer's government, which is probably going to be in next. perhaps he could consider it, but then he's got some odd policies which we will be tackling in the next hour. but coming up i have a niggle at the childish behaviour of mayor khan. but next women, would you rather bump into a bear or a man if you were alone in the woods? now this question has gone viral onune now this question has gone viral online and the answer might take you

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to gb news news online. on tv and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . this is the clash. lots of akua. this is the clash. lots of you have been getting in touch. we've been talking about all sorts of things today. rwanda, cyclists and everything. fiona's beenin cyclists and everything. fiona's been in touch. she says emma usually talks sense, but today she's on the same stuff as nigel. >> never , never, then there's >> never, never, then there's one here, which was interesting. william said at last, a discussion on cyclists . i travel discussion on cyclists. i travel in london on a daily basis. cyclists are a complete nightmare. no regard for any other road users or pedestrians going through red lights, all in regular on a regular basis. also, vast majority will have no lights . particular problem also, vast majority will have no lights. particular problem in the early mornings. the argument that in europe they are respected is all well and good, but you don't see cyclists ignonng but you don't see cyclists ignoring red lights at junctions as you do here. i have no sympathy whatsoever with cyclists when they come across as they show total disregard to everyone else, not to mention the number of bikes that litter every pavement. william is not mince his words , that's william. mince his words, that's william. >> the bikes that are littering

the pavements are those horrible electric bikes which are dumped there by the companies by, you know, i won't mention cyclists in it. secondly, we didn't express any sympathy for that cyclist. we expressed deep sympathy, all of us for the 81 year old woman who was hit by a man in these fast, scary pelotons going at breakneck speed through regent's park. obviously there are other brands. >> i mean, it wasn't that he was in a peloton, it was the way he was driving. >> actually, no, they call it the peloton. it wasn't. i'm not talking about a brand. it's not a brand. i'm talking about the actual brand, the formation. oh yeah, there is a brand. that's the one that rishi sunak does at home or whatever. >> yeah, that's why i'm saying that. which is not the same thing at all. no, not the same thing. it's the formation. yeah >> i'm talking about those scary racers. >> yeah, yeah. okay. good okay. you got anything to add? no. good. it'sjust you got anything to add? no. good. it's just as well it would have been a bit, you know, anyway, a lefty, right? alison calling all women. have you casted your vote now, i'm not talking about the local elections. i'm talking about man versus bear women on social media have been answering whether they'd rather be left alone in a forest with a bear or alone in a forest with a bear or a man. it might surprise you to hear that in this particular face off, bears are winning .

face off, bears are winning. nigel. man, is this offensive? or do you have some sympathy with women who would rather choose a bear? >> i think it's totally offensive. i mean , this has got offensive. i mean, this has got to started as a joke, this whole thing. but what seems to have happened to this debate is that a lot of serious people have now entered it, including statisticians. so statistically you are you have a one and 613 million chance of being of encountering a stranger who murders you. you have a 1 in 232,000 chance of meeting a bear that will attack you. therefore, you're much better off with a man, right? >> well, that depends on how many men there are and how many bears there are. >> of course, you're better off with a man you know, with a gun. but men are not shoot you. >> and he goes for the bear. >> and he goes for the bear. >> men are not the enemy. we don't need to be so wary. and i'm talking about, as a woman, we don't need to be so fearful and wary of men. we don't need to be so fearful and wary of men . i think this and wary of men. i think this started as a joke. i don't understand these women. if i,

you know, if you see a bear in a wood, it's probably going to chase you. and kill you, right? >> whether you're a man or a woman, most men, most men, 99% of men are lovely, are normal human beings. >> doesn't matter whether they're men or men or women. what is going on with these women? this is the metoo movement. this is where it leads you. this is they've gone mad. they've gone mad. they've gone mad. >> oh, i'd rather have a bear fearful of men. no they wouldn't. they've never seen. they've never had a grizzly come face to face with them. go. i'm gonna rip your face off and just take you. i mean, look, that's madness. i'd rather a man any day because i can, you know, fight off a man. i can't fight off a bear. >> and at least we could just walk out. if it's a man. if a man's annoying us, at least he can just stand up and walk out or tell them the man might fight off the bear. >> yeah, or help you fight off the bear. >> no, they'll probably hide behind you, nigel, to be honest with you. well, that's probably. >> yeah, that's probably true. >> yeah, that's probably true. >> yeah. >> yeah. unfortunately. >> yeah. unfortunately. yeah. what is wrong with these people? what is wrong with these people? what are they thinking? >> it is. it's the earnestness of it all. and it does come from the metoo movement, i think. i think these women are genuinely saying that they don't want to encounter an unknown man. and

what what? >> it must be hard walking down the street. then for them, let alone going into the woods . alone going into the woods. >> it'sjust alone going into the woods. >> it's just it's alone going into the woods. >> it'sjust it's i actually >> it's just it's i actually think it's a sad state of affairs, of the genders feel so kind of distrustful of each other what men would say. >> yeah, well, they'd probably rather meet the bear as well . rather meet the bear as well. forget the women. but let's see what people have been saying about everything this afternoon, here we go . just me saying, here here we go. just me saying, here parks are for walking. it's for not racing or track for track or cycling like that. i would say you're right with that one, dave, this is about the cyclists as well. said i'd go further, make cyclists pay insurance, road tax and a yearly safety check. i'm with you. they should do some sort of mot. just like a car . you're going to use the car. you're going to use the roads, sharon daley says nana okura for prime minister. thank you . i think i'd okura for prime minister. thank you. i think i'd have to take a big pay cut, though, sadly, i think i'll do the job, steve says i'm joking. actually, i'm all for dealing with the migration problem at source . migration problem at source. this does not mean creating safe routes. well, that's what you were saying. creating safe routes. she's not saying that.

and you. nigel. >> yeah, we both said that. yeah, but he's saying no. >> i said nothing about safe routes. >> no. you boasted actually, no, i said no, you did. >> never used. you did. >> never used. you did. >> i mean, yours was worse deaung >> i mean, yours was worse dealing with the problem at source. >> which is worse, which are two separate things. yeah, they're two separate things. they're both pretty bad. but nigel, not me. safe routes essentially. i mean, we should spend foreign foreign aid on rebuilding this country so they don't have to leave it. i hear you, but that's not working because we spend enough anyway. well, listen, this is gb news. stay tuned. still to come, the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is this a wake up call for the tories? and that is. nigel is on the way about mayor khan. but first, let's get an update with your weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello! welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. still staying rather cloudy in the north tonight. sunny spells and showers on monday and then something a little bit more settled. but back to the here

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weather to start the day. but we will hold on to quite a lot of cloud, especially across northeastern parts of, of the coast of england. but as we go into next week, high pressure is dominating, plenty of sunshine, settled weather and also a rise in temperatures. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsor of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> welcome. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua more to come in the next hour. in a few moments i will be sharing my thoughts on sadiq khan's behaviour after securing another term as london mayor, which is nana nil and why i think he needs to grow up just a little bit. and also my brilliant panel, christine hamilton and danny kelly will also be joining me live. remember, you can catch up on everything gbnews.com or get in touch gbnews.com/yoursay

way. hello. good afternoon. it is 4:00. welcome to gb news on tv, onune 4:00. welcome to gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and for the next two hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now . hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it says and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so joining me today cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also author and broadcaster christine hamilton. in just a moment, nana nigel, i'll share my thoughts on sadiq khan and why i think he needs to grow up. then stay tuned. at five my outside guests. we talk highs , lows and lessons learnt. highs, lows and lessons learnt. and what comes next on the outside. now my mystery celebrity this week is a well known author and commentator and she's no stranger to a spot of fortune telling. umma thurman, princess diana and george michael were amongst her clients . have you guessed who she might

be? then this week this caught my eye. >> don't you make me dizzy from your kisses. >> will you take my hand and spin me ? spin me? >> yeah. it's always a bad song, isn't it? that's all. in the name of eurovision. of course, yes, that's all on the way. but before we get started, let's get your latest news with sam francis . francis. >> nana, thank you very much. and good afternoon to you. it's just gone 4:00 and leading the news today. rishi sunak is facing yet more turmoil within his party after a disappointing set of local, mayoral and local election results . the election results. the conservatives lost hundreds of seats with labour, the liberal democrats and independents all making gains. the prime minister has promised to take the fight to labour despite those losses . to labour despite those losses. however, former home secretary suella braverman told us today that rishi sunak needs to urgently change course. >> there's no time to change leaders so the prime minister is

going to be leading us into the next general election , whether next general election, whether we like it or not. what he needs to do to salvage this dire situation is to accept the enormity of the problem, these terrible results and quickly and urgently change course. so to make sure that there are meaningful tax cuts that people can feel and benefit from, put a cap on legal migration. take us out of the european convention on human rights so that we actually stop the boats and make sure that we reclaim our streets back from the extremists . back from the extremists. >> it's suella braverman there speaking to us earlier this morning. meanwhile, transport secretary mark harper also told us it's time to rally around the leader . leader. >> i think all conservatives now need to get behind the prime minister as the chairman said in his article this morning and take that message to the country. we see from the analysis that experts have done that the results show that the position is closer than the polls are suggesting. so it's

everything is delightful for the next election , and we're next election, and we're absolutely up for that fight . absolutely up for that fight. >> sadiq khan is beginning his third term as london mayor after securing a majority of over 275,000 votes over his conservative rival, susan hall yesterday . mr conservative rival, susan hall yesterday. mr khan has conservative rival, susan hall yesterday . mr khan has accused yesterday. mr khan has accused the tories of running a campaign of fear mongering and he said non—stop negativity . he also non—stop negativity. he also added that london has rejected hard right wing populism. miss hall is urging him to reform the metropolitan police and to make london safe again. mayor khan says he is still excited for the future londoners want to see a change in government and what they're excited about is the chance of a labour mayor working with a labour government led by keir starmer. >> i'm excited. the last time that happened was 20 years ago and us working together care the cabinet a labour mayor. londoners will see a transformed city. i can't wait and staying with news from the local elections, sir keir starmer has said that he's determined to win

back the trust of voters who turned away from the labour party over its stance on gaza . party over its stance on gaza. >> they lost some council seats to independents and to george galloway's workers party of britain. pat mcfadden is vice chair of labour friends of israel, and he told us the party will support palestinians in government . government. >> but two things have guided our position. all along. one is the one that you just mentioned, which is israel's right to defend itself after the appalling attacks on october the 7th that will remain. we will stick up for that. but we also want to see a better future for the palestinian people. and if we were to be elected, are the coming election, that would be a big foreign policy priority for us. >> us. >> pat mcfadden speaking to gb news this morning . >> pat mcfadden speaking to gb news this morning. in >> pat mcfadden speaking to gb news this morning . in other news this morning. in other news, a ten year old girl has died in a house fire in bradford in the early hours of this morning. emergency services were called to reports of a blaze in kingsdale drive just after1

kingsdale drive just after 1 am. a woman and three children. we understand , did manage to we understand, did manage to escape that property. they have been taken to hospital for treatment, though their injuries are not thought to be life threatening . sadly though, a threatening. sadly though, a fourth child was found inside the house and died at the scene. investigators now working to establish how the blaze started. police, though, have said it's not being treated as suspicious . not being treated as suspicious. a man has been arrested today on suspicion of organising people trafficking across the english channel. the 38 year old, who claims to be an iraqi, was detained in preston this morning. it relates to crossings made in november and december last year. he was detained as part of an investigation into an organised crime network. benjamin netanyahu claims the next 7th of october attack, he says, is only a matter of time away if israel agrees to a ceasefire set out by hamas. negotiations are continuing in cairo, with the terror group engaging with egyptian and

american mediators. however, the israeli prime minister has refused a deal which would see the release of hostages in exchange for a pause in fighting . and finally, news into us in the last hour or so that actor bernard hill, best known for his roles in titanic and lord of the fings roles in titanic and lord of the rings, has died today. it comes just hours before the release of his latest project, season two of the drama the responder. fans of the drama the responder. fans of the drama the responder. fans of the late cinema icon have been sharing tributes on social media, and they've also been honounng media, and they've also been honouring their favourite performances from his career . performances from his career. those are the headlines. more to come with gnaana throughout the rest of this afternoon . until rest of this afternoon. until then, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the code on your screen, or go to gb news. common alerts . common alerts. >> good afternoon. it's fast approaching seven minutes after 4:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 4:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm

nana akua now. the tories received a drubbing at the local and mayoral elections. it was a complete car crash , the biggest complete car crash, the biggest blow probably losing andy street in the west midlands to labour. sadiq khan became london mayor for an historic third term, winning 43.8% of the vote. >> it's londoners who inspire me every day to continue our mission of building a fairer, safer and greener london and in what i hope will be a year of great change, a future labour government led by keir starmer, working with us in city hall will mean we can go much further and accomplish so much more . and accomplish so much more. >> well, its closest rival was conservative candidate susan hall, who secured 32.7% in a year campaigning for this election has been an honour and a privilege . a privilege. >> i have loved speaking to londoners about the things that

matter to them. the thing that matters to them most and to me, is reforming the met and making london safe again. i hope sadiq makes this his top priority . makes this his top priority. >> she also pointed out that she would hold him to account and she was right to point this out. and she will continue to do that. somebody has to do it. after all, knife crime, violent crime and burglaries have skyrocketed under him. the metropolitan police, which is part of his role he oversees them, has also had many disgraceful occasions. his launching of ulez in outer london has proved to be incredibly unpopular , and has incredibly unpopular, and has even had to change his marketing campaign after people complained when a photo of white people in the capital was earmarked as not representing real londoners. after susan's speech yesterday, mayor khan snubbed her when she tried to shake his hand. well, i'm not really a fan of sadiq and that is based on his performance as london mayor there is no need for bad

manners. it smacks of childishness in a city that has been falling apart under his tenure for years. lee anderson didn't mince his words. >> well, i've got to be careful, what i say about the labour mayor, i don't want to give him too much of a hard time, but it's absolutely useless. it's been a disaster for this country. it's been a disaster for london, and it needs belting out at the next election in four years time. it's an absolute disaster for our capital city, and you'll see over the next four years what he does to that city. rob the motorist . blind city. rob the motorist. blind knife crime will go up, violent crime will go up and there'll be sneering away in his ivory tower. and i will keep calling him out . him out. >> so while some might dismiss sadiq's initial snubbing of susan hall's handshake, i see it as representing a greater problem . how can he expect problem. how can he expect cohesion in our great capital if he cannot even lead by example and extend the hand of peace to his rival and set a good example to londoners, a city that is divided more than ever? grow up,

sadiq . so before we get stuck sadiq. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking , is this the wake up i'm asking, is this the wake up call the tory party needed? it's been a bruising weekend for the conservatives, losing hundreds of council seats and suffering a shock loss in the west midlands mayoral contest. so the great british debate this hour i'm asking, is this the wake up call the tory party needed? then, at 450, as worldview, we'll cross live to los angeles to speak to paul duddridge, host of the politics people podcast, and get the latest on donald trump. plus we'll also go to live to israel to join uri geller in tel aviv to join uri geller in tel aviv to give us the latest on the israel—gaza ceasefire talks at five. it's this week's outside. i'm joined by someone who's had an extremely interesting career. take a look at life after the job. we talk highs, lows and lessons learned and what comes next on the outside . now my next on the outside. now my mystery guest this week is a well—known author and commentator, and she's no stranger to a spot of fortune telling . stranger to a spot of fortune telling. umma thurman,

stranger to a spot of fortune telling . umma thurman, princess telling. umma thurman, princess diana and george michael are amongst her clients, and in 2018, she appeared on celebrity big brother. any ideas who she might be? well, that is coming up in the next hour as well. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing, go to gbnews.com/yoursay . right. to gbnews.com/yoursay. right. let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. and also author and broadcaster christine hamilton . all right, christine hamilton. all right, so let's, should we start? i'm going to start with you, christine hamilton. yes. what do you think? did you watch any of the elections or listen to any of the mayoral elections and the local elections, not a lot. >> i've sort of slightly turned off politics. it's like the vast majority of the population, it seems i mean, the biggest winner in this council elections were the don't cares and the don't knows and the people who didn't turn out and they in particularly on the tory side, are the ones who handed the result , it's

are the ones who handed the result, it's astonishing. >> i mean, i can't remember exactly what it was, 30 something percent. i mean, that is really low 29% or how people have fought and died for the vote, for heaven's sake. and people cannot be bothered. i think a lot of people said this can't be the case in london, but i mean, it clearly is , a lot of i mean, it clearly is, a lot of people don't realise how local government impacts on their lives. they think it's not important. >> they don't realise how much of their money is spent by local government. i do think the tories, i mean, to me it's utterly astonishing that khan has got a third. >> i mean, his record is so appalling , how can anybody vote appalling, how can anybody vote for him? but on the other hand, i don't think the tories had their heart and soul in it. and susan hall was a very nice lady and she worked incredibly hard. but she's not exactly charismatic and i think if we'd had i mean, look who the tories did have as london mayor and what was his big plus? >> he was charismatic. >> he was charismatic. >> that was boris. i think they needed a, somebody who could strike through and hit through the wall a bit more, sorry . the wall a bit more, sorry. that's probably an aggressive

thing which hit through the wall anyway. but you know, when you say that i'm thinking about bofis say that i'm thinking about boris on that, on that tractor with the brexit tractor, that's brexit through the wall. i don't think the tories, there were so many blows they could have had at labour. and i just don't think they fought through. i'm afraid khan can't be that bad. >> he's being re—elected for the. >> that's the point , isn't it? >> that's the point, isn't it? they've. i'm not a londoner. >> i wouldn't want to live in london. but he can't be that bad. londoners have have elected him once again. just going back to the little video. >> why? >> why? >> well, you'll have to ask the people who voted for him. >> yes, i will. well, i don't know. >> but going back to the video of khan snubbing susan hall, if you actually pay attention, susan hall is the one that snubbed somebody else. so to the right of susan hall, he got this really tall fella candidate. i don't know who he is. and he actually shakes khan's hand and can't be fair. if you're objective with this, khan isn't looking at susan hall. he's looking at susan hall. he's looking towards the audience. so susan hall is standing on his periphery. he doesn't see his her hands. >> you don't think he sees her? >> you don't think he sees her? >> i don't think he sees her to be fair to the lads, i think i genuinely to be fair to the lads, i wouldn't have voted for him. but i want to be fair. and

then susan hall is actually touched on the arm by this guy who wants to, and she's the one who wants to, and she's the one who leaves the other lad hanging and that's what does that what you see, that's what i saw. so, so khan doesn't see susan hall. khan sees susan hall gives her a limp wristed, half hearted handshake. and then this other lad comes in, shakes khan's hand. >> and to be fair to him, he does eventually shake her hand. but it didn't take him. >> i agree with danny. i don't think he saw her hand. >> oh, i think it was. did you did any of you see the sort of london mayoral sort of hustings on the bbc? no, no i didn't. well, if you'd seen that you might take a different view . oh might take a different view. oh they hate each other. yeah. but if you, if you saw that then you could see the sort of the, the dynamics between the two. and i think if you saw that, you might take a different view. >> i think he did snub winston churchill once said in defeat, defiance in victory, magnanimity. and khan was not magnanimous exactly . yeah, but magnanimous exactly. yeah, but nor was susan hall. susan hall should have been gracious in defeat, but she couldn't resist in defeat. i think she was. why was she not? it's basically, she said that knife crime is a problem. it has. said that knife crime is a problem. it has . yes, i know, problem. it has. yes, i know, but she's she's been defeated and now is the opportunity to be

magnanimous. >> she said, i think she said, i think she was right. she was fair. she said she will hold him to account. yes that is her job. and she said just because she's not one, that what she's saying is just because i not one, that what she's saying isjust because i haven't not one, that what she's saying is just because i haven't won, i'm still going to carry and do my job. i will still. i love the city. i will still hold you to account. >> that wasn't the occasion for her. yes it was, i know disagree. >> what other and well she's had the previous four years to do it. >> andy street . >> andy street. >> andy street. >> no no she hasn't. she's gone for. >> if you heard, if you heard andy street magnanimous speech in defeat where he was so gracious and warmly applauded the labour guy that's how you do it. he didn't say, i'm going to make sure that knife crime drops in birmingham and coventry, but andy street has had a very good record in the job that he's done. >> so where he is, he has made a really positive impact. if you look at sadiq khan's record, the same cannot be said. so what she's saying is just because you've got this role doesn't mean that i'm going to stop doing my job and holding you to account and i think a lot of londoners who would have liked her to get in are very pleased that she's there to hold him. >> i think she should have been gracious. that is gracious.

>> and she was. that is great. thatis >> and she was. that is great. that is gracious. i think he was ungracious by not shaking her. i think you're making a mountain out of a molehill. >> i mean, i think what she said, she was quite right, magnanimous in defeat, of course. and what she said, i thought was fine. what's wrong with saying i'm going to hold your feet to the fire? >> she should say, congratulations, mr khan. we've had our disagreements over the last six months with the hustings. i wish you all the best, but please , she should be best, but please, she should be disingenuous. >> oh, come on, this is her big chance.i >> oh, come on, this is her big chance. i don't think you should be disingenuous. i think you should be honest. so why did she say well done to him then? what are you saying? she said well done to him. she said, well, what's wrong with that? that's magnanimous. she just said, what are you saying? are you saying that now she's magnanimous. >> part of being magnanimous would be her saying, that's not. congratulations, mr khan. >> what is. what's the difference between. well done and congratulations? >> so we agree she should have she. >> if she's going to say well done, she should have said she's already. congratulations >> and then she said what she will do. >> her speech should have been congratulated. >> i think she should just like sugarcoat everything on the top and just be super shrugging. she should be nice. >> i think she should have congratulated her. >> she did. she said, well done as you. >> but that was that was in private when she was trying to grab his hand. oh, part of the speech should have been

congratulated. >> i don't think so. i think she's right. >> well, she said you're dancing around on the head of a pin. >> no, but he wouldn't be able to. i might be able to . to. i might be able to. >> that's what the talking point is about, is about whether whether whether she was snubbed. >> no, but she was the difference between well done and congratulations. i mean, come on. i think listen, it is i know only too well how awful it is to stand up there when you've lost and my heart goes out. it's really hard street, actually, because he, i think has been a thunderingly good man like andy burnham has to. they both deserve to win. >> so go watch andy street speech. yes, but that will show you how you should have done it. >> no, but if somebody's done a woeful job in the role and only his record is what we're judging by, then i think absolutely. because people it's a democracy. well i'm not going to i'm not going to call people names like wes streeting who called people who voted suzanne streeting. no, i'm just saying i'm not going to call people names who voted for sadiq khan, like wes streeting, who called people who voted for him white supremacists, which i think is amazing for susan hall, not sadiq khan. that's what i said. susan hall put it the other way round. well, anyway,

that's what i meant because danny keeps interrupting me when i'm trying to finish what i'm saying. be quiet. it's a dialogue. be quiet. all right. what do you mean , it's what do you mean, it's a dialogue? i speak, you listen. that's how it works , right? that's how it works, right? what's more, do you think gb views gb news. com or why not? gbnews.com/yoursay. it's coming up to 18 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua coming up world view. we'll cross live to los angeles to speak to paul duddridge and also off to tel aviv to have a word with uri geller. next. so it's time for the great british debate this hour, and i'm asking, is this the wake up call the tory party needed ? i've got the tory party needed? i've got to pull up right now on x asking you that very question . is this you that very question. is this the wake up call the tory party needed? tell us what you think . needed? tell us what you think. gbnews.com/yoursay .

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in. where have you been ? it's in. where have you been? it's fine. you've got at least an hour and a half left, so you've not missed too much . but it's not missed too much. but it's time now for the great british debate this hour. and i've got loads to ask. but before the break we were discussing sadiq khan. break we were discussing sadiq khan . let's see what you've been khan. let's see what you've been saying, margaret says. unbelievable that he's managed to stay in power. his speech alone tells us that london is lost to the eu and the ulez. he won't listen , stephen says khan won't listen, stephen says khan can't wait for starmer to get in once starmer is pm, khan will go with his begging bowl to get all the money needed for fancy tube drivers salaries and more deranged green schemes. and another, margaret says suzanne was gracious in defeat. she was right to say what she did. khan's policies have made london a scary place. well, i'm actually with you on that because, you know, she was gracious in defeat, i thought. and she did tell him, well done. and she did tell him, well done. and i also think that he did snub her initially, but hey, i might be wrong. it's time for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is this the wake up call the tory party needed now? the local elections were bruising for the

conservatives after they lost more than 470 council seats and the mayoral contest only added to the misery for them, as labour claimed a string of victories, including a surprise win in the west midlands. the former home secretary, suella braverman, has told gb news the results show that rishi sunak needs to urgently change course. >> there's no time to change leaders , so the prime minister leaders, so the prime minister is going to be leading us into the next general election, whether we like it or not. what he needs to do to salvage this dire situation is to accept the enormity of the problem. these terrible results , and quickly terrible results, and quickly and urgently change course . so and urgently change course. so make sure that there are meaningful tax cuts that people can feel and benefit from. put a cap on legal migration. take us out of the european convention on human rights so that we actually stop the boats . actually stop the boats. >> well, suella isn't alone in saying her party needs to change course to avoid a wipe—out at the general election. so the great british debate this hour,

i'm asking, is this the wake up call? the tory party needed? well, joining me now, matthew stadler, political commentator , stadler, political commentator, david campbell bannerman, chairman for the conservative democratic organisation, and former mep nigel nelson, gb news senior political commentator and emma woolf writer, columnist and commentator. emma woolf writer, columnist and commentator . okay, so emma woolf writer, columnist and commentator. okay, so i'm going to start with you, matthew stadlen . stadlen. >> well, suella braverman sounds as desperate as she does because she stands potentially to lose her own seat at the general election . election. >> i'm not sure why we're particularly bothering with what she has to say. she's a failed home secretary. she had to resign twice as home secretary. not once. but twice. she wants the tories to lurch to the right. and yet we've just come back off these mayoral elections and these local elections and reform uk have been utterly humiliated . so i think that way humiliated. so i think that way lies even greater electoral disaster for the tories. but let's just be real, nana. i think pretty much every single person in this country has been paying person in this country has been paying attention for the last

five years, knows that it's over for the conservatives and it's over for rishi sunak. >> so you don't think that there's any chance? i mean, this may have been a wake up call for the party. they maybe have been slightly snoozing at the wheel. i'm going to go to david. david campbell—bannerman , nana, yeah. campbell—bannerman, nana, yeah. well, it was a disastrous local elections, there's no doubt about that. there's no contest on that 500. almost 500 more councillors lost . councillors lost. >> we lost 1000 last year, and obviously andy street is a huge loss, we didn't win london, sadly, no. >> i think the lesson from this is sunak must go. i think it's a disaster. we're not getting the vision we need. we're not getting the reassurance. and if you look at what matt goodwin has been saying, it's like, you know, 1 in 4 conservative voters from last time are not voting at all. and you saw that in the in the turnout, which you touched on, 1 in 4 are going to reform. >> it's only 1 in 10 are on, 1 in 4 are going to reform. >> it's only1 in 10 are going >> it's only 1 in 10 are going to labour or the lib dems. so there's a chance, if we get the

right leadership that reassures our own voters, not labour voters, our own voters, to come back and support us again, there is a chance to do a lot better, though, frankly, it's a cliff to climb . climb. >> are you suggesting that they should change leader before the next general election ? next general election? >> david yes, i do, and actually i don't agree with suella in terms of turning things around. you know, boris turned things around. we were 7% in the euros in 2019. and then that was june . in 2019. and then that was june. by in 2019. and then that was june. by december, he won an 80 seat majority, largest since 1986, yeah. but they've got rid of boris, unfortunately. yeah, yeah, they got rid of him though. they foolishly got i'm afraid. >> but but it is possible to turn things around because what we're trying to do or should be doing is getting our own voters back. and i see that through senior executive, democratic organisation. you know, a lot of our people are drifting off or going off to reform because there isn't the vision, there isn't the leadership. and there aren't the right policies coming from number 10. and that's a

really sad situation. >> do you not think it's slightly more dire than that, in that even when they have an opportunity to initiate policies, they're not doing it in the squabbling amongst themselves . in the squabbling amongst themselves. i'm going to come to emma woolf. >> emma, the idea that with only a few months to go that we would now plunge into yet another conservative leadership contest , conservative leadership contest, i think is for the birds, we know how divided and, you know, torn up, tearing themselves apart. the conservative party already are. so, no, i don't think that's an option . i mean, think that's an option. i mean, the idea that this is a wake up call that the last few days, the results of the local elections and the mayoral elections are a wake up call. well, how have they been sleeping on this? i mean, the polls have been plummeting for months and months and months now. they should have been on. they should have been on manoeuvres. they should have been taking emergency action way before this. there are so many conservatives right now who do not know how to vote. >> well, they probably thought that they had taken emergency action by changing their leader, bofis action by changing their leader, boris johnson, to change him to was it liz truss? and then to change to rishi sunak ?

change to rishi sunak? >> since sunak has come in, he's popularity has been sinking, >> since sunak has come in, he's popularity has been sinking , the popularity has been sinking, the conservatives has been plummeting in the polls. as i say, it clearly has not worked. >> nigel nelson yeah , i mean, i >> nigel nelson yeah, i mean, i don't think i think suella braverman is right. there isn't any time to change leader. it would be mad to go and do that now. but the andy street also made a very good point, last night, which was that he was warning the tories not to move right in a kind of panic at these results. and i think that is right . the these results. and i think that is right. the game plan now has got to be saving as many tory mps as possible. well, that's their game plan anyway, rather than winning, winning an election. and britain is a moderate country. tony blair took the labour party to the centre, won three elections. david cameron took the tory party back to the centre . he won party back to the centre. he won two, would have won three without the eu referendum . without the eu referendum. jeremy corbyn lost by going left. it's the centre ground where votes are to be had. >> david, you suggested they

should change leader. i mean , do should change leader. i mean, do you not think that that would literally be the last straw for potential voters or people who are prepared to stick with them ? are prepared to stick with them? >> no, as i say, because if you get the right new leader, you win back your own voters. and that's what we're concerned about. labour voters aren't going to vote for us. whatever leader we have. so the point is, it's about getting back our own voters, and we do stand a chance. we do that . and i look, chance. we do that. and i look, it's eight months. it could be january next year. even, it is possible to do an awful lot in a short time. i mean, i personally would get rid of the human rights act that is part of a 2019 manifesto. and if we do that, we're halfway towards getting rid of the echr, because that's what blair introduced to incorporate the echr into our courts . so there's incorporate the echr into our courts. so there's a incorporate the echr into our courts . so there's a lot that courts. so there's a lot that can be done in six months. and if you reassure your own voters, they will consider coming back very seriously. at the moment, they're not well, i think the court system itself is in a bit

of a bind as well. >> i don't think we'll get anything done in that short space of time. matthew stadlen final word to you. >> yeah. i mean, ijust final word to you. >> yeah. i mean, i just want to point out, remind everybody that we have had three prime ministers, three conservative prime ministers since all of us last, and everyone watching last had an opportunity actually to put an x in the in the box at a general election. labour now holds 11 out of the 12 metro mayoralties. the local elections have been catastrophic , as we've have been catastrophic, as we've been discussing for the conservatives. and when we get to the general election, there are some really important factors that were in play in 2019 that no longer are boris johnson, and i thought very little of him , as i'm sure you little of him, as i'm sure you realise as a politician. but he was a brilliant election winner. he's no longer there. jeremy corbyn was an election loser . he corbyn was an election loser. he is no longer there. brexit was a toxic topic that is not as toxic as it used to be. and above all, perhaps the tories at that point with a bit of lib dem re mixed in, had been in power for nine years now. they've been in power for 14 years, and i think

british politics is cyclical. people are tired of the tories. it's over . people are tired of the tories. it's over. right. >> okay. you say it's over. so very briefly i just a yes or no then would do you think this is a wake up call for the tory party? matthew stadlen. yes or no? no, also to you, david, yes or no? >> yes. big time, emma woolf. yes or no? yes. and nigel nelson. yes. >> but they won't learn. okay. well maybe they've woken up just a little bit too late. thank you so much for your thoughts all of you there. thank you so much to matthew stadlen political commentator david campbell—bannerman, chairman of the conservative democratic organisation and former mep nigel nelson. gb news senior political commentator and emma woolf writer, columnist, columnist and also commentator. so what do you think at home gb news on tv, online and on digital radio? we will continue with the great british debate this hour. is this the wake up call the tory party needed? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel you'll hear the thoughts of my panel. but first, on the way, let me not just remind you my outside guest. that's on the way. a mystery lady. she's well known for many things. she's a psychic , she's worked with psychic, she's worked with

people like princess diana and george michael. even appeared on celebrity big brother. who is she? she'll be here about about five. first, let's get your latest news with sam francis. >> 432 exactly. i'm sam francis in the gb newsroom. the headunes in the gb newsroom. the headlines this hour. rishi sunak is under pressure from some of his own mps and opposition parties after a disappointing set of local election results. the conservative mayor for the west midlands, andy street, was defeated by labour's richard parker, while sadiq khan is beginning his third term as london mayor after securing a majority of 275,000 votes. government minister mark harper told us today that the party needs to unite behind the prime minister, but opposition leaders are calling for an election. >> i think all conservatives now need to get behind the prime minister. as the chairman said in his article this morning, and take that . message to the

take that. message to the country. we see from the analysis that experts have done that. the results show that the position is closer than the polls are suggesting. so it's everything is delightful for the next election, and we're absolutely up for that fight . absolutely up for that fight. >> in other news, a ten year old girl has died and a woman and three children have been taken to hospital after a house fire in bradford. emergency services were called to reports of a blaze in kingsdale drive just after 1:00 this morning. investigators are now working to establish how that fire started. police, though, have confirmed it's not being treated as suspicious in israel. benjamin netanyahu has claimed the next 7th of october attack is only a matter of time away. if he agrees to a ceasefire set out by hamas . agrees to a ceasefire set out by hamas. negotiations are continuing in cairo, with the terror group engaging with the egyptians and american mediators. however the israeli prime minister has refused a deal which would see the release of hostages in exchange for a pause in fighting in gaza, and

actor bernard hill, best known for his roles in the titanic and lord of the rings trilogy, has died today at the age of 79. it comes just hours before the release of his latest project, season two of the drama the responden season two of the drama the responder. with martin freeman. fans of the cinema icon have been sharing the tributes on social media while also honounng social media while also honouring their favourite performances from his career . performances from his career. for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or go to our website gb news. common shirts now, though, it's back to . nana. it's back to. nana. >> thank you. sam, 35 minutes after 4:00, it's fast approaching nana akua coming up. worldview will cross live to paul duddridge in los angeles and also uri geller, who's live in tel aviv in israel. we'll get the latest on what's happening there next, though. it's time

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welcome back. it's just coming welcome back. it'sjust coming up welcome back. it's just coming up to 39 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua, and it's time for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, is this the wake up call the tory party needed? the local elections were bruising for the conservatives after they lost more than 470 council seats and the mayoral contest only added to the misery as labour claimed a string of victories, including a string of victories, including a surprise win in the west midlands. many are now warning the conservative party needs to change course if they want to avoid a wipe—out at the next general election, so for the

great british debate this hour, i'm asking is this the wake up call the tory party needed? well, let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by author and broadcaster christine hamilton and broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. danny kelly i'm going to start with you. >> is it a wake up call if the tories was a were a patient in a hospital bed, they'd have do not resuscitate at the end. if they're going to wake up they're going to wake up in a morgue. they're finished, they're toast. and it's their own doing. they should never got rid of boris johnson and all of these conservative mps. i've said this before, i'm standing like a stuck record. they should never have got rid of johnson a few years ago. sunak is a weak leader . reform years ago. sunak is a weak leader. reform are knocking the final nail into the royal blue oak coffin lid and they're just finished i reform i can't quite grasp what reform are trying to do. yes they want to bring back right wing conservatism to british politics, i get that. but you're faced with the gritty prospect of having labour in charge for the next. however many parliaments. >> but reform must stick to

their own remit. why should they? why it's not their job to prop up the tory party. they're a party in their own right, correct. >> but but their direct opponents, one would think the conservatives aren't opponents of reform. it's just that they're weak. and that's what that's why reform have have started. but the direct opponents would be socialism and laboun opponents would be socialism and labour. and yet they are they are actively, if you like, they are actively, if you like, they are actively, if you like, they are actively going to put them in power. >> no they're not. some would say that the cost a&e street has made. some people might even say the tory party have turned into socialists. christine hamilton well , it's not my job to socialists. christine hamilton well, it's not my job to promote reform, but i think they would say that they are looking to the long term. >> and although they're not expecting to be the government after the next general election, they hope to make the basis for maybe being the government after the one after that, i think would be their and they are prepared to pay the price that you have just outlined , that you have just outlined, that they are going to take votes from the tories and they will help to usher in a labour government. they think that that is worth it. i think that's short term pain, long term gain in optimistic long term. exactly. so that would be their view. >> i would just like to say that

amidst all this doom and gloom, not last night was thursday night. >> there was one conservative gain, one in the entire country. and that was a friend of mine called robin hunter—clarke . and called robin hunter—clarke. and he gained a district council seat in the hermitage division . seat in the hermitage division. so i'd just like to one shout out the only conservative gain in the entire country. so it's not all doom and gloom, but yes, of course, it's pretty gloomy andifs of course, it's pretty gloomy and it's you weren't expecting that, were you? >> well, there's only one, isn't it? well, this shows nothing without you and your views as well. come our great british voice. is there opportunity to be on this show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing? where should we're discussing? where should we go ? kidderminster. let's go we go? kidderminster. let's go to kidderminster. >> carpets. >> carpets. >> oh yes john reid. hello john reid, what are your thoughts ? is reid, what are your thoughts? is this, is this the wake up call for the tory party? >> yes, of course it is . and, >> yes, of course it is. and, danny, i'm 101% with you today. christine i beg to differ, my dean christine i beg to differ, my dear, but i think that since bofis dear, but i think that since boris , liz and rishi have put boris, liz and rishi have put their show on the road , they've their show on the road, they've dnven their show on the road, they've driven the tories down a route

that they cannot now recover from. >> and i think any talk of reform is simply changing the topic. >> let's get away from it. >> let's get away from it. >> is it a wake up call for the tories ? tories? >> of course it is, but it's way too late. i don't think they can save the sinking ship now. >> i think it's gone. >> i think it's gone. >> and for my money, good riddance to bad rubbish. >> change radically. >> change radically. >> but that's my political bias. showing through isn't it? >> well, it's your opinion, john reid, which you're entitled to it. you're my great british voice. thank you so much. >> well, what have they done? >> well, what have they done? >> what have they done for the national, the police service, the prison service , you name any the prison service, you name any publicly owned thing? >> maggie sold off all the nationalised stuff, didn't she? >> for perhaps good reasons. >> for perhaps good reasons. >> but at the end of the day, foreigners now control our country. i'm not up for it. >> i'm not for it. >> i'm not for it. >> i think a lot of people aren't. sadly john reid, thank you so much. he's a great british voice. he's there in kidderminster. really good to talk to you. this is gb news. we're live on tv , online and on we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua coming up in the next hour. i'm a great british debate. i'm asking should labour u—turn on its workers rights plans? but

next world view will go live to los angeles to speak to paul duddridge, host of the politics people podcast, and then off to israel to speak to uri geller to get the latest from what's happening there

i >> -- >> went through the afternoon. >> went through the afternoon. >> it's 46 after four. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. don't forget as well. download the gb news app because you can catch all the programmes that we have on the channel it's completely free. but it's time now for world view . and now for world view. and thousands of israelis have marched through tel aviv demanding prime minister benjamin netanyahu accept a ceasefire agreement with hamas that would see the remaining israeli hostages brought home from gaza. relatives and supporters of the more than 130 are still in captivity . he said are still in captivity. he said that everything is possible and they would like to bring them home. they want everything to be

possible to be done. so joining me to discuss that is former performer and mystifier uri geller. uri, really good to see you. there's been a lot going on in israel. talk to me about the evening, what's been happening last night . last night. >> okay. >> okay. >> nana last night there were thousands of israelis in tel aviv publicly calling for the government to agree on a deal with hamas to free their hostages. >> now , you have to understand something. >> every single israeli, whether you are for the government or against the government, wants their hostages freed, even even their hostages freed, even even the prime minister benjamin netanyahu, has repeatedly said that freeing the hostages is a government's number one priority. >> but the question is how to achieve that? >> do you completely capitulate to hamas's demands and leave them free to repeat the october them free to repeat the october the 7th massacre? >> or does israel continue fighting and putting immense pressure on hamas to leave them

with no option but to free the hostages ? hostages? >> look, nana, i would like to remind you and all your viewers that it remind you and all your viewers thatitis remind you and all your viewers that it is not israel, but hamas , which stands in the way of a deal , which stands in the way of a deal. even the us secretary of state, antony blinken, who has been tough towards israel, said israel's proposal to hamas is exceedingly generous. and your own foreign minister, david cameron, said exactly the same thing. now let me show you something. look, look at this. look nana. the fact that hamas is holding the hostages is a national trauma for israel. >> israelis feel like their family, but israel cannot commit national suicide by letting hamas survive. >> let me ask you, nana, would britain have let the nazis survive and rebuild ? of course survive and rebuild? of course it wouldn't. well, this is the same dilemma which israel is now facing. look, fine. this is finally. now look nana, this is andifs finally. now look nana, this is and it's actually the last thing i'll say . don't forget that

i'll say. don't forget that hamas is holding 130, 130 hostages. they are in hell. innocent men, women, children and a baby. this should be an issue for the whole of mankind, not just for israel. the whole world should be demanding their release and supporting the destruction of hamas. and i want to wish everyone it's holocaust remembrance eve, tonight. so god bless you all. i love you all, and i love, i love britain and i love you too. nana. >> thank you. love you too. thank you so much for talking to me. it's really good to speak to you. that's uri geller, his life in tel aviv. thank you. right, well, let's travel over to america now. and let's speak to the host of the politics people podcast , paul duddridge, paul podcast, paul duddridge, paul duddndge. podcast, paul duddridge, paul duddridge . right. what's been duddridge. right. what's been going on in the states? we've got president trump. he was found in contempt of court. he was fined $9,000 for violating a 939 was fined $9,000 for violating a gag order. >> yeah. happy cinco de mayo from los angeles by the way,

yes. >> donald trump finally , >> donald trump finally, finally, he, he bent the knee to the judicial process this week. >> he the judge in a separate side, hearing about his behaviour and conduct conduct dunng behaviour and conduct conduct during this new york trial, was complaining about, donald trump posting on truth, social stuff about witnesses, stuff about evidence and basically campaigning . and he was told to campaigning. and he was told to take it down and take it down, and he didn't take it down. so this week he got fined $9,000 for contempt of court. and he's finally taken down the offending truths or tweets or xs or whatever we call them now. so yes, he finally, yeah, they will do anything to stop this man speaking. it's absolutely amazing. it's not enough that he's in court every day for eight weeks. he's now not even allowed to post anything on truth social, how his campaign and yet sorry. and yet he's he's even further ahead in the polls now than he was. he's like 12 points ahead in some, in some opinion polls from joe biden. so

it's whatever they're trying to do is backfiring on the popularity scale. but yes, he's finally had to, and there was talk, i have to say he was fined $9,000. there was talk of imprisoning him instead . that imprisoning him instead. that was actually a possibility, being imprisoned for contempt of court . quite extraordinary. court. quite extraordinary. >> what's going on with his hair, though? sort of square at the back these days. what about, a potential run running? his hair looks incredible. but what about this potential running mate for trump, christine noem? talk to me about what happened there. >> this is amazing. this is amazing. right? okay. i'm you know, i'm, you know, maga til i die, etc. and i love maga. and etc. etc. but they do shoot themselves almost literally in themselves almost literally in the foot sometimes. kristi noem, governor of south dakota, she was the shoe in the most likely candidate to be the vice presidential running mate for donald trump. she's fantastic . donald trump. she's fantastic. she's on message supportive of trump. so she released, like her autobiography , just in the last autobiography, just in the last few weeks, kind of like, you know, setting out her stall for why she is a great vp candidate

and why she'd be good for the country. and in that book, she included a story about i'm so ready for business that one time i shot my dog because it was untrainable so. and then, to make matters even worse, she named the dog. so now america knows that she shot a puppy, a 14 month old puppy, because it was untrainable . and the dog's was untrainable. and the dog's name is cricket. >> did she kill it? she killed it. yeah she she killed the dog. oh, that's awful, but this didn't creep out by investigative journalism . investigative journalism. >> she wrote it in the book thinking that maybe i don't know, the undecided will come and follow her. you know, it was. it's extraordinary . and was. it's extraordinary. and like i said, i'm married. but that was. i couldn't believe . that was. i couldn't believe. and this is what they keep doing. this is what maga keeps doing. this is what maga keeps doing . it's just it's like they doing. it's just it's like they think that they're campaigning, but they just say these terrible things sometimes and it just makes them unelectable . but makes them unelectable. but yeah. kristi noem, take her. if you had her on the office sweep for vp running mate, you can forget that now. she is now not going to be the vp running mate.

and she was the leading. i had a dog called cricket that was untrainable. so i took it to a ditch and shot it. >> it'sjust ditch and shot it. >> it's just like, no, she can't do that awful woman. no, she can't go, she can't run. and she's just, she murdered it. basically. she just admitted to murdering a dog. awful awful woman. no, she can't. she can't run. i'm glad that she's not doing that , what about joe doing that, what about joe biden? what is happening with joe biden? because president trump, he's leading, i think, in the latest polls. >> yes. i think nap time is probably what's happening. if we're talking right about now, is happening with joe biden. yeah. look, campaigning wise , yeah. look, campaigning wise, it's interesting, actually. and this might not, cross the atlantic so much, but the late night host, there was a big article this week about late night hosts have kind of deliberately decided never to rail on, joe biden. and they're not going to mock him or criticise him because they see their job criticise him because they see theirjob as upholding their job as upholding democracy, theirjob as upholding democracy, which is a phrase that's been bandied around with these , your local elections this these, your local elections this week. and so he's getting , he's week. and so he's getting, he's getting a very, very soft ride

from the media when actually, you know, the students there was there was one of these rallies this week, one of these rallies this week, one of these rallies this week, one of these rallies this week that we were talking about the student rallies at columbia or every university vie both sides were saying , both sides were saying, expletive deleted. joe biden, the pro—israel side and the pro—palestine side. so, yeah, he is he's popular all over. >> he's not going to get anywhere at all, is he? paul, listen, paul, always a pleasure. thank you so much for joining me. that's paul duddridge, host of the politics people podcast. right bill, this is gb news live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come outside guest. who is she? stay tuned to find out . find out. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello! welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. still staying rather cloudy in the north tonight. sunny spells and

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feeling quite warm through tuesday. then a lot of dry weather to start the day. but we will hold on to quite a lot of cloud, especially across northeastern parts of, of the coast of england. but as we go into next week, high pressure is dominating, plenty of sunshine, settled weather and also a rise in temperatures. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> this is gb news live on tv, onune >> this is gb news live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, my mystery celebrity guest . well, she's a celebrity guest. well, she's a well known author and commentator. she's been a psychic for the likes of princess diana and george michael. and in 2018, she appeared on celebrity big brother. any ideas who she is? all will be revealed very shortly. stay tuned. do not go anywhere

away - - away . good afternoon. it is away. good afternoon. it is 5:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 5:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. coming up in the great british debate this hour , great british debate this hour, i'm asking, should labour u—turn on its workers rights plans. but next, my outside guest will be revealed . stay tuned though. oh, revealed. stay tuned though. oh, not next. i'm still here. it's 5:00. she's coming. now, listen, let me give you some clues. actually, my celebrity guest this week is well known she's an author. she's no stranger to a spot of fortune telling. uma thurman, princess diana and george michael were amongst her clients. i'll reveal who she is shortly , then, for the great shortly, then, for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking should labour u—turn on its workers rights plans? there are reports that sir keir starmer could water down his pledges, such as banning zero hour contracts, after lobbying from businesses. plus, this caught my eye this week . caught my eye this week. >> don't you make me dizzy from

your kisses. >> will you take my hand and spin the name of eurovision? >> but first, let's get your latest news with sam francis . latest news with sam francis. >> gnaana, thank you very much and good afternoon to you. it's just coming up to 5:02. the top story from the newsroom this evening. rishi sunak is under pressure from some of his own mps and opposition parties after a disappointing set of local election results this week. the conservative mayor for west midlands, andy street, was defeated by labour's richard parker, while sadiq khan is beginning his third term as london mayor after securing a majority of 275,000 votes. former home secretary suella braverman told us that rishi sunak needs to urgently change course, following what she called the dire local election results. >> there's no time to change leaders , so the prime minister leaders, so the prime minister is going to be leading us into

the next general election, whether we like it or not. what he needs to do to salvage this dire situation is to accept the enormity of the problem. these terrible results, and quickly and urgently change course. so make sure that there are meaningful tax cuts that people can feel and benefit from. put a cap on legal migration. take us out of the european convention on human rights, so that we actually stop the boats and make sure that we reclaim our streets back from the extremists . back from the extremists. >> suella braverman, speaking earlier . >> suella braverman, speaking earlier. well, while opposition leaders are calling for a general election now , government general election now, government minister mark harper insists the conservatives are focusing on the priorities of the british people . people. >> i think all conservatives now need to get behind the prime minister as the chairman said in his article this morning, and take that message to the country. we see from the analysis that experts have done that the results show that the position is closer than the

polls are suggesting. so it's everything is delightful for the next election , and we're next election, and we're absolutely up for that fight . absolutely up for that fight. >> and staying with news from the local elections this week, sir keir starmer has said that he's determined to win back the trust of voters who turned away from the labour party over its stance on gaza. they lost some council seats to independent and to george galloway's workers party of britain. pat mcfadden is vice chair of labour's friends of israel , is vice chair of labour's friends of israel, and he told gb news the party will support palestinians in government. >> but two things have guided our position all along. one is the one that you just mentioned, which is israel's right to defend itself. after the appalling attacks on october 7 that will remain. we will stick up for that. but we also want to see a better future for the palestinian people . and if we palestinian people. and if we were to be elected at the coming election, that would be a big foreign policy priority for us. >> in other news, a candlelit

vigil has been held for a teenager who was stabbed in north—east london earlier this week . 14 year north—east london earlier this week. 14 year old daniel anjorin was attacked on his way to school by a man with a samurai sword. four other people, including two police officers, were also injured in that attack. marcus monzo, a spanish brazilian dual national, has been charged with murder and attempted murder. we've also heard today that a ten year old girl has died in a house fire in bradford . in the early hours of bradford. in the early hours of this morning, emergency services were called to reports of a blaze in kingsdale drive just after 1 am. a woman and three after1 am. a woman and three children did manage to escape the property. they've now been taken to hospital for treatment. sadly, though, a fourth child was found inside the house and died at the scene . investigators died at the scene. investigators are now working to establish how that fire started . a man has that fire started. a man has been arrested on suspicion of organising people trafficking across the english channel. the 38 year old, who claims to be an iraqi, was detained in preston

in the early hours of this morning. it relates to crossings that were made in november and december last year. he was detained as part of an investigation into an organised crime network. benjamin netanyahu has said that hamas is still a threat to israel, and that he can't accept their terms for a ceasefire. the terror group wants a pause in fighting, and they say that's in exchange for the release of israeli hostages. however, the israeli prime minister has refused that deal prime minister has refused that deal. he claims those ceasefire terms set out by hamas would, he says, lead to another 7th of october. and finally, before we head back to nana, water suppues head back to nana, water supplies that we understand are now gradually being restored to thousands of homes in saint leonards and in hastings. after a weekend without running water. it follows a burst pipe in remote woodland on thursday . remote woodland on thursday. southern water has issued an apology to its customers in east sussex, with more than 30,000 properties suffering now their fourth day of disruption in a statement, the firm said they do hope the full return of supplies

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today my mystery celebrity guest is a well known author and commentator. now she's no stranger to a spot of fortune telling. uma thurman, princess diana and george michael were amongst her clients. in 2018, she appeared on celebrity big brother and came in fifth place. have you guessed who she is then for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking should labour u—turn on its workers rights plans? sir keir starmer is reportedly considering watering down his pledges, such as ending fire and rehire, after lobbying from businesses. but one of labour's biggest union backers has warned him against it. so if the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, should labour u—turn on its workers rights plans? as ever, tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. go to gbnews.com forward slash your say . so every sunday at 5:00, say. so every sunday at 5:00, around about this time, i'm joined by a celebrity, a former mp or someone who's had an extremely interesting career to

take a look at life after the job. we talk highs, lows and lessons learnt and what comes next on the outside. now this week my guest is a well known author and a commentator and a psychic . she's author and a commentator and a psychic. she's a author and a commentator and a psychic . she's a psychic author and a commentator and a psychic. she's a psychic medium. she had her first psychic experience at nine months old before she could even walk or talk, and saw her first spirit at the age of four. now she started doing readings for her friends in her 20s, and eventually left her career as a dental nurse to become a professional medium and among her clients. as i said, homeotherm princess diana , homeotherm princess diana, george michael. she's been on lots of different successful tv programs and even embarked on nationwide tours . in 2018, she nationwide tours. in 2018, she took part in celebrity big brother. she finished in fifth place. have you guessed who she is ? i'm joined by tv celebrity is? i'm joined by tv celebrity psychic and author sally morgan. sally. hi hello. welcome. oh, you're very welcome. what a wonderful build up. well, you've done so much. i have. >> and you know, when you mention ummah, it was quite funny, really, because when i first saw her in this little

house in fulham that, her makeup artist , who was robert de house in fulham that, her makeup artist, who was robert de niro's makeup artist and pa, she was the one that sort of got me in touch with her. >> and of course, she was. she was married to what was his name? was it sean penn then? >> and of course, i could see things were not not sean penn. was she married to uma thurman ? was she married to uma thurman? yeah, i can't remember. >> i can't think they all marry each other. >> yeah, well , but basically and >> yeah, well, but basically and i could see that going wrong. and i don't think she liked that. oh, really? so she called me back. yeah, she called me back about , i me back. yeah, she called me back about, i don't me back. yeah, she called me back about , i don't know, me back. yeah, she called me back about, i don't know, four weeks later and was really pushing her and i it didn't change. and of course they did. they divorced . so that was it. they divorced. so that was it. that was quite sad really, because she was quite angry with me, i think. >> so you first had your, psychic experience at the age of nine months. now, most people would say, come on, how would you know? what are you talking about? >> what happened? well, it was just a really abbreviated version of it. it was i when i was 11, my mother was putting some photographs in an album , some photographs in an album, and there was a photograph of a

baby sitting in a pram , and i baby sitting in a pram, and i had forever told her about a story. i said, i feel like i was a baby and someone was calling my name, but not calling my name. it wasn't my name and i was trying to look away and i looked at this photograph and i said, that's the baby. my mother said, that's the baby. my mother said, that's the baby. my mother said, that's you. that story i tell you. and you could see i had this big sort of leather set of reins on it. she said. i was i wasn't looking at the camera and she said, you wouldn't look at me and i sort of, i remember that. and i said, well, you know, i can remember thinking, well, that's not my name. and then that's when she told me for then that's when she told me for the first three days of my life, i didn't have the name sally. i had another name. >> what was your name? >> what was your name? >> michelle. >> michelle. why >> michelle. why did >> michelle. why did they >> michelle. why did they change it back to sally? >> because my grandmother said it was foreign. oh, see, we are talking of the early 50s here. we're talking about 1950s. so and she said, no, i love gracie field. we're going to call her sally . so that's how i got my name. >> now, you didn't grow up in a wealthy household? >> not at all. >> not at all. >> but you have done very well

for yourself. talk to me about what it was like growing up. you've done pretty well. you even said you had 1.5 million in the bank. >> well, well, at one point, yeah. not anymore. now, the thing is that you, you're, you know , i came i'm very lucky that know, i came i'm very lucky that i came from such a, you know, a regular, ordinary, poor background in those days. and because it gives you and my parents had a wonderful work ethos. so you went to work and you worked and no one was going to give you anything. so basically i had that. and you're not aware of that being instilled, are you? inside you? are you and, so i just worked and worked and worked and worked and worked and worked and worked and worked and are still working now. >> well, you were a dental nurse when did you sort of decide? right, i'm going to use my psychic powers to, to, to well, actually capitalise on them because sometimes they say that if you try and make money from this, then then these powers will be taken away. >> well, yeah, i understand what you're saying now, but . but when you're saying now, but. but when i first started as a as a medium, you didn't. i mean, people would bring like maybe a bottle of milk or a dozen eggs or a cake, a bunch of flowers. it wasn't i didn't charge

anything when i first started and then it was it was something like, well, i mean, when i used to see the princess of wales, she was £35 an hour. oh, that's nothing . and she paid. she paid nothing. and she paid. she paid me, you know, whatever i wanted. but i just she was charged exactly the same as you know, that joe bloggs down the road. >> i'd have added another couple of zeros on the end of that. >> no, you couldn't do that. i couldn't do you know, and the thing is that it was something that once again, i just did it, it wasn't it wasn't about money. and if you you don't do this work, it isn't about the money with this work. and of course, as the years have gone by, the psychic industry is huge. huge. >> so what is the difference? what's the medium ? what do you what's the medium? what do you and how do you. you know, obviously you can't give away your your tricks, but no tricks as it were. but you're the portrayed. but what can you well you see, you've got people that like to be called a clairvoyant , like to be called a clairvoyant, clear view, you know, clairvoyant to see, clear view . clairvoyant to see, clear view. then you've got psychics. don't ask me where that term came

from, which is very sort of genenc from, which is very sort of generic and covers a multitude of sins. and then you've got people perhaps like myself , i people perhaps like myself, i like to be called a medium because i do feel i'm the person in the middle, you know, picking up the energy. it's my work is about energy. >> so who are you talking to? are you talking to the dead? and you're bringing messages? who am i talking to? >> well, i think that, you know, if you want to sensationalise it, you can say, oh, she talks to the dead. but basically it's harnessing energy around the individual . and it seems to be individual. and it seems to be that the energy is of loved ones that the energy is of loved ones that have passed. so i harness that have passed. so i harness that and i just tell you what i, what i feel and then harness it and tell me, yeah, yeah, well, you have to very important men in your life. one of them was quite naughty and he , you know, quite naughty and he, you know, if you sort of went back on his life, he would have been. he was he was a naughty boy. is he dead? yeah. he's dead. okay. and then the other man, both of these men are in spirit around you. and the other man is very much like a father figure, but was possibly a grandfather. but

like a father figure, wanted you to be, you know, have a good education, live your life to the full. wanted you to be happy. so a lot of wisdom around that man. the other man might. may have been his son who died quite young, but he, as i say, he was. he was quite ruthless and naughty and did some things that, you know, perhaps, he would have been. he would have had his knuckles rapped. quite interesting. so you've got quite the around you in spirit today. i could see you tomorrow . nana. i could see you tomorrow. nana. it would be totally different. but today it's very male around you. but that's because you've got some change coming with your work. so you're making decisions and they're there to guide you. >> is it really is a good things, very good things, very good things. >> very, very, very good things. and, you know, you, you're going to go across the pond, darling. so what does that mean? well america is very big in your life, i told you a bit about america . you think? well, no, america. you think? well, no, you've got america here. >> i know with your program . no, >> i know with your program. no, but you've got america where you could work in america .

could work in america. >> i could imagine that. >> i could imagine that. >> yeah. so that's going to be my turn. >> really, really rich like billionaires. >> well, well, i definitely come stay with you because you'll have a swimming pool, won't you? yeah. >> you can, you can stay if you just tell me. i do. >> yeah, exactly. i'm coming oven >> yeah, exactly. i'm coming over. i'm coming over. yeah wow. >> and do you, do you still. so you still do a lot of this. you're still i do. >> i'm on tour i tour, and if you're interested in tickets, just go on to my website. sally morgan.tv. i still i've been doing for 14 years. it's like a loop, you know. and i tour the uk and all over the world really. and australia and it's that's a really big, important part of my life because i feel that, you know, the possibility of being able to still hear from a loved one that you've lost and you miss so, so very much. it gives people hope. >> do you think that sometimes you're saying things and almost inserting suggestion to people, and then they go and do that thing because of what you're. i hope not, i don't think i do, i don't there's no there is no intention ever from me to , intention ever from me to, influence anybody, you know, i

just tell you what i, what i sense and what i feel, what can you give us an example of one of the worst things that you may have seen that you don't need to say. >> obviously, you're not going to say who they are, but what's the worst things that you see? >> well, i think the some of the worst things that i get to see because they happen on a daily bafis because they happen on a daily basis , if i'm, especially when basis, if i'm, especially when i'm on tour, is, you know, i see murders and we had i can't remember if this is in the book, but i mean, i know it was, it was filmed, but basically i got, i picked up this this man that had been murdered. and then in the second half, i picked up the murderer who had died in prison, had committed suicide . so. and had committed suicide. so. and the woman, the wife of the murdered man stood up, and she and i got both of their names , and i got both of their names, and i got both of their names, and no one stood up in the first half and took the guy and sort of said, yes, that's me. this is the guy that was murdered . but the guy that was murdered. but in the second half i got the man that was the murderer. wow she put her hand up and she said, you just spoke about my husband and i didn't want to put my hand

up, but you've actually just picked up the murderer. gosh. wow. >> that's quite amazing. okay, so what about the elections , so what about the elections, then? what's your prediction for then? what's your prediction for the elections? i think we could all do that one, please. >> you do not need sally morgan to tell you this, but keir is going to be our next prime minister >> do you think? will it be landslide? >> definitely landslide . that's >> definitely landslide. that's very different to blair, but on par with blair's landslide . par with blair's landslide. >> and is it likely that the conservatives will become the third party? they disappearing? >> well, i don't think they're disappearing. no, because i think that sunak will he'll be out and he will literally be out and they'll have a new leader and they'll have a new leader and that person will really go to town. but i know everyone is talking about the reform party, and nigel and all of that, but i think that the tories are always going to be that second party. >> and when do you predict the next general election happening? >> well, i think i've said i think i've said november. but i'll be really honest with you . i'll be really honest with you. i'll be really honest with you. inever i'll be really honest with you. i never change what i say, but you'll have it down. what i've said, i've got a feeling october is really important. do you think it's going to come in earlier? >> i think in january. i think

they're going to cling on. >> no, i don't think they will. >> no, i don't think they will. >> you don't think so? >> you don't think so? >> no. i think there's something huge. it's going to be another big scandal in the tory party. >> i really do think. >> i really do think. >> and it will be and he'll he'll chuck the towel in and that'll be it. >> sally morgan. really? >> sally morgan. really? >> sally morgan projects first on tv. >> you said it here. there's going to be another big scandal. you think the election is going to come forward to kind of october time ? october time? >> well, potentially in your head! >> well, potentially in your head i think well i think that we'll get this something big in october. we're going to hear big rumblings. and then perhaps in november we're going to have to he's going to have to do you know what. and i can't remember if i'm getting this again or but but november the 14th i think i said november the 14th. >> isn't it funny. well, listen, if people want to catch up with you, find out on your tours. where can they go? yeah. >> website. sally morgan, dot tv. and you know, i'm on all like you darling. all the socials a tiktok now as well. is it tiktok, tiktok i don't really get an instagram. well i wish i love them, i love them all. the youngsters i love. i want to introduce the next generation

into the work that i do because it's so important. >> absolutely . sally morgan, >> absolutely. sally morgan, really lovely to talk to you. thank you so much. >> thank you darling . >> thank you darling. >> thank you darling. >> thank you darling. >> thank you. that, of course, is sally morgan, celebrity tv psychic and author that was outside. it'sjust psychic and author that was outside. it's just coming psychic and author that was outside. it'sjust coming up psychic and author that was outside. it's just coming up to 18, 19 minutes after 5:00. coming up , 18, 19 minutes after 5:00. coming up, clip bait. now, this clip caught my eye. this week. >> don't you make me dizzy from your kisses. >> will you take my hand? and spinning . spinning. >> it's all in the name of eurovision. of course, we'll discuss that next. it's time for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, should labour u—turn on its workers rights plans? this is

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live on tv, online and on digital radio. it's time now for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking, should labour u—turn on its workers rights plans now ? this comes as sir plans now? this comes as sir keir starmer has told that he risks limping into downing street if he were to back down in the face of intense lobbying from big businesses. unite general secretary sharon graham has said that the unions could divert funds from the party if they continue to dilute their pledges to workers in the uk, which included a minimum wage for at least £10 an hour. a guarantee of work or training for young people, a ban of zero hour contracts and also outlawing fire and rehire . so outlawing fire and rehire. so joining me now is ryan mark parsons, columnist and former apprentice star steve headley, former rmt assistant general secretary. i'm going to start with you, steve headley , what with you, steve headley, what are your thoughts on this? because a lot of people actually like zero hours contracts and fire and rehire. there are other things that, you know, probably not. not so much. but, it looks

like labour may consider u—turning on that. that element of their policy. >> yeah. it wouldn't surprise me at all. i think starmer really, was a con, a bit of a con artist when he stood for labour party leader. he, he was he adopted the previous leader's policies, jeremy corbyn's policies about renationalisation or certainly bringing things into public ownership . ownership. >> he's dropped that from everything except perhaps the railway , we have the recent railway, we have the recent retreats on the green policies. we've had a series of retreats , we've had a series of retreats, and i think that starmer is very desperate. >> and to portray himself as a safe pair of hands for big business and capitalism in general. >> and he'll do that by ditching, i think, or certainly weakening the, promises that he gave the trade unions, which were minimal, to say the least. >> i mean, i think £10 an hour, in this day and age is not really a living wage. anyway, i think that the, the fact that

people don't have an employment rights from day one, but have they wait two years is dickensian and the sort of, the promises that he did make were certainly weren't earth shattering. but i fully expect them to dilute these. and i think sharon graham is right that i don't always agree with sharon graham, but, the rmt did have a policy and do have a policy where they don't give the labour party money, just willy nilly. they support mps that support their policies. and i think that's good for the trade union movement to give money to mps that support the policies of trade union, and not just given that a political party. >> well, that's going to this is going to be a problem for sir keir starmer. surely because how is he going to square those circles? ryan mark parsons well, i just don't think it's a good idea at all. >> and this new deal for workers, i was reading into some of these proposed policies, flexible working as a right,

making sure that workers can be autonomous is scrapping zero hour contracts. >> i know a lot of young people at the moment. there's about a million workers in the uk that are on the zero hour contracts. people my age that rely on these contracts because they're in education provides good flexibility . that is something flexibility. that is something that should stay . and also it's that should stay. and also it's the fact that i just see it as a step towards being anti—competitive in business. if the labour government, if there is to be a labour government, perhaps at the end of this year when we have a general election, we need to be fostering an environment that is friendly to business. and when i'm looking at these pledges that they're looking to implement into legislation, i just don't see it as a step in that direction. i see it as a step towards discouraging business to come to the uk, and i think that's something that keir starmer really needs to look at. and i

would also make the point that there's about there's over 500,000 young people. that's people 18 to 35 currently out of work. and when i'm reading through all of these pledges, flexibility of working , putting flexibility of working, putting mental health on par with physical health, i just see it as a way of exacerbating the current numbers of young people and people overall. that aren't working in this country that have been completely apathetic when it comes to working and their attitudes towards work and these policies, if they come into place, will catalyse that that working mentality, which i think is really detrimental to growth in this country. >> okay. hold on. so steve, steve, what is wrong with zero hours contracts? i'm just i'm just wondering why as a union, you think that as a former rmt assistant general secretary, you think that zero hour contracts are bad? as ryan's pointed out, are bad? as ryan's pointed out, a lot of people quite like them . a lot of people quite like them. >> look, i'm really sorry, but bnan

>> look, i'm really sorry, but brian doesn't typify anything about the average person on a zero hours contract, judging by his accent. how do you even know that? >> what a stupid claims made. >> what a stupid claims made. >> hold on. let me finish . >> hold on. let me finish. >> hold on. let me finish. >> you talk. >> you talk. >> you talk like you've got marbles in your mouth. and don't interrupt me again. so basically, there are lots of workers out there trying to raise a family, and they're trying to raise a family. in london in particular, you've got hundreds of thousands of workers on millions of workers, probably up, up and down the country on some form of zero hours or limited hours contract . and a limited hours contract. and a lot of people have to actually claim benefits on top of that. so we have a ridiculous situation where people aren't guaranteed work. the work's there. but what this is , it's there. but what this is, it's a method of control. if somebody tries to stand up for their rights and work, if they try to stand up to their employer, they don't need the sacking. they just told not to come back the next day. you know, they've got absolutely no recourse to the, the, the law at all. >> but but that but that works. that works both ways though, because then you don't have to because then you don't have to be committal to some of those jobs that they won't all sack

you. some of them, you don't have to be committed to it. you can work around things that work better for you, you know, even if you are bringing up a family. and for some people, that actually works better . so i'm actually works better. so i'm just concerned that making it so rigid and saying, you can't have these at all doesn't sound like a very good plan. and what about business as well ? businesses business as well? businesses won't be happy with that, would they, steve? surely >> well, i'm not really concerned what businesses are happy or what not happy with. >> we've seen a redistribution of wealth in this country over the last 20 years now of rich to poon the last 20 years now of rich to poor. and if you look at the gdp , the percentage of gdp that now goes to the elite , the top 1% or goes to the elite, the top 1% or the top 0.1, in in relation to what goes to the mass of workers out there, it's getting ridiculous . we've got a massive ridiculous. we've got a massive pyramid system on our on our hands. and that's not that's not sustainable. but they also have people claiming off the state, because they can't get enough work from the employer. we can't do people we knew employment

rights, because if they try to speak up for themselves at work, they'll be told not to come back they'll be told not to come back the next day. well, now, there may be can i just say, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. there may be a small percentage of people who would prefer to have some flexible working, but i don't think anybody out there who says that they, they, they want they have no guaranteed hours a week . but no guaranteed hours a week. but but that's what people want. if they want no guaranteed hours. >> but you don't some jobs. that's the way it is. and for some working mothers it works better that way. ryan. mark >> well, i think steve is hard of hearing or doesn't understand engush of hearing or doesn't understand english because no no no, hold on, hold on. >> there's no need to. there's no need. there's no need to inqu no need. there's no need to insult him. hold on. sorry. hold on, hold on. there's no need, no need , no, no, hold on, hold on, need, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on, both of you, stop, stop stop stop. nobody will hear anything if you both speak. okay so that's not necessary, right? no. hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. it's not necessary to insult him. please don't do that. just carry on with what you're saying, ryan. >> well, i said earlier that i know vast ways that people my

age. and like you said , gnaana, age. and like you said, gnaana, it works both ways. but the zero hour contracts they need these zero hour contracts for the flexibility. but also, i'd like to add, over the past few days, it's emerged that labour is looking to what they've already introduced a loophole into these pledges where there will be an opfion pledges where there will be an option for employees to opt out of the zero hours contract. so where they said originally it's going to be entirely banned, they've already flip flopped on that policy change that they've decided to implement. if they get into government by making it an option . so they really have an option. so they really have no consistency in their policies. >> so listen, we're we're running again. we're running out of time. we're running out of time. so should they u—turn on their policy of banning zero hour contracts etc, etc. should they u—turn yes or no? ryan yes or no? absolutely. >> to remain anti—competitive business? >> yes. okay. steve. yes or no? on that? yes or no? >> no. but i suspect that they will. and little tory boy they're sitting beside you will be absolutely cockahoop. because

when it goes into management in a couple of years, like his family background, you don't know that. >> that's not fair. you know , >> that's not fair. you know, you don't know all that? no little racist. just know he's not. that's not fair. listen. hold on, hold on. >> attacking somebody because they're rac. >> no, no you can't. i don't think he meant that. i don't think he meant that. i don't think he meant that. i don't think he meant that. but steve, thank you very much for joining me. >> he's trying to set up his next position in the conservative. >> no i don't well i don't know about what party represents, but that's not fair steve. come on, let's play fair. steve hadley, thank you very much. former rmt assistant general and also ryan mark parsons , economist and mark parsons, economist and former apprentice star. right. you're with me. i'm nana akua . you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. coming up, we'll continue with the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, should labour u—turn on its workers rights? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel and also , but first, let's get and also, but first, let's get your latest news headlines with sam francis . sam francis. >> 532 a very good evening from the gb newsroom . the top story the gb newsroom. the top story tonight. rishi sunak is under pressure from some of his own

mps and opposition parties after a disappointing set of local election results. the conservative mayor for the west midlands, andy street, was defeated by labour's richard parker, while sadiq khan is beginning his third term as london mayor after securing a majority of 275,000 votes. opposition leaders are, though, now calling for a general election, but government minister mark harper insists the conservatives are focusing on the priorities of the british people. >> i think all conservatives now need to get behind the prime minister. as the chairman said in his article this morning, and take that message to the country. we see from the analysis that experts have done that. the results show that the position is closer than the polls are suggesting. so it's everything is delightful for the next election, and we're absolutely up for that fight. >> in other news, a candlelit vigil has been held today for a teenager who was stabbed in northeast london earlier this week, 14 year old daniel anjorin

was attacked on his way to school by a man with a samurai sword. four other people, including two police officers, were also injured. marcus monzo, who's a spanish brazilian dual national, has been charged with murder and attempted murder. national, has been charged with murder and attempted murder . a murder and attempted murder. a man has been arrested on suspicion of organising people trafficking across the english channel. the 38 year old, who claims to be an iraqi, was detained in preston in the early hours of this morning. it relates to crossings made in november and december from france to the uk last year he was detained as part of an investigation into an organised crime network in israel. benjamin netanyahu claims that the next 7th of october attack is only a matter of time away . is only a matter of time away. that's if he agrees to a ceasefire set out by hamas . ceasefire set out by hamas. negotiations are continuing, with the terror group engaging with the terror group engaging with egyptian and american mediators. however, the israeli prime minister has refused a deal which would see the release of hostages in exchange for that pause in fighting.

of hostages in exchange for that pause in fighting . and just some pause in fighting. and just some breaking news before we hand back to nana coming to us from northern ireland tonight, where a man has been found nailed to a fence in what police have described as a sinister and brutal attack, that man, who's in his 20s, has suffered potentially life changing injuries. we understand following the incident in the residential area of bushmills. officers who attended the incident also said two vans had been set on fire in the public car park near to where the man was found, and police are now appealing for anyone with information or who may have dash cam footage, to urgently call 101. those are the headlines. more to come throughout tonight. until then, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen , or go to qr code on your screen, or go to gb news. com slash alerts. >> thank you sam. coming up clip bait. this caught my eye this

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? good 7 good afternoon. just coming up to 39 minutes after 5:00. this is gp news on tv, online and on digital radio. some people are mumbling under their breath. i'm nana akua. yes. it's time for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, should labour u—turn on its workers rights plans ? it comes as sir rights plans? it comes as sir keir starmer is reportedly considering watering down his pledges , such as ending fire and pledges, such as ending fire and rehire bans ing zero hours contracts. this was all part of his plan and reversing anti—strike legislation . that anti—strike legislation. that was, of course, the thing where you had to have a minimum level of work after lobbying from

businesses. but one of the biggest union backers has warned him against. it unites general secretary sharon graham has said that. she said that the union could divert funds from the party if they dilute their pledges to the workers. so for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour, i'm asking should labour u—turn on its workers rights pledges? and that is interesting because it shows that they are in hock, unfortunately with them. so joining me now, my panel them. so joining me now, my panel, christine hamilton, broadcaster and author, and also danny kelly, author and broadcaster christine hamilton. >> well , it's broadcaster christine hamilton. >> well, it's we're back to broadcaster christine hamilton. >> well , it's we're back to the >> well, it's we're back to the good old days of the 60s and 70s of beer and sandwiches at number 10 and the labour party in hock to the unions. and when i can't remember her surname, sharon, whatever she's talking about, millions of pounds. this is just a tenner to the labour party. this is millions. and the labour party would be not holed below the waterline, but seriously damaged if they didn't get money from the unions. so they, they do have to be fair. and the whole thing is a balance. and the businesses are going to be pulling in one direction. i mean, i don't see anything wrong

with zero hours under certain circumstances. you know, i'm on zero hours basically most of the time they work for i'm not saying i'm typical, by the way, before the twitterati gets going, but they work for certain people and the media are bbc and newspapers and things employ a lot of people on zero hours. and the guardian had a great big article saying that the zero hours were appalling. they use zero hours. so you know, it's a balancing act. i don't know how many labour you do know. >> they definitely use zero hours at the guardian. >> i have read in an article i wouldn't, i wouldn't, i can't say it's necessarily true, but i saw it in the newspaper. >> okay, so i don't know how many labour mps or ministers have ever actually run a business if they know what it's like as keir starmer, what do we know if he's run a business? no i don't know. >> i don't. his father was businessman. >> there's not a lot of it to many politicians of all sides now have gone straight from university to being a researcher to working for an mp. and then and then in they go. and they haven't actually had real practical experience of running a business. so yes, they're bound to dilute their proposals .

bound to dilute their proposals. but the unions are going to, you know, it's going to be a balancing act. >> well, what was he thinking though getting rid of zero hours contracts. that's not going to work in any. you can't just get rid of them like that danny kelly. >> but but but also labour party need the unions and the unions need the unions and the unions need labour party. you know , need labour party. you know, they need each other and keir starmer and stupid. he knows this , you know the labour party. this, you know the labour party. so the unions aren't going to start throwing £29 million towards the tories. there's a clue in the name labour. it's a party set up to look after the rights of the of the men and women who work. and there's a clue there. so the unions need labour and it's a balancing act. it's a negotiation. the success of tony blair for his three terms, i believe, was it three terms, i believe, was it three terms was the fact that there was a balancing act between socialism and capitalism. we live in a country that is a small c conservative. you know, my fellow bald brother from ireland who lost his temper about throwing the race card can upset you, calling him bald . oh, upset you, calling him bald. oh, my fellow bald brother, the union lads . i my fellow bald brother, the union lads. i was listening to a fascinating debate and someone said, you haven't got a grasp of engush said, you haven't got a grasp of english or whatever. and the kid tookitin english or whatever. and the kid took it in the in the wrong way, in my humble opinion. you know,

those days i think are gone. you know, the i remember broadcasting in birmingham and before i was broadcasting in birmingham, there was a guy called red rubber that was his nickname. i remember red robin, the, the land rover, the, the rover plant, and i heard stories where they would just walk out over the most trivial of matters. you know, if there was seen the mass strikes that we've had over the last year with a lot of the services punishing commuters. >> and, you know , the nhs and >> and, you know, the nhs and everything else like that. so this could be a taste of things to come. >> look, keir starmer knows if he wants to be successful, he can't be hard left. he knows this. he's not jeremy corbyn but he's no one would vote for corbyn. well sorry. of course lots of people would for vote covid. not enough, but they wouldn't vote him in and that's the difference. he needs to be like tony blair. >> the key to power is capturing the middle ground. and starmer knows that very well. >> he ain't soft. >> he ain't soft. >> if anybody was on the fence pretty much on everything, i should do a u—turn on this then, because he will have to u—turn on it. >> but what are the unions? >> but what are the unions? >> though? he's been warned . >> though? he's been warned. >> though? he's been warned. >> well, i don't think he should be a tug of war. >> do you think that he should stick with the idea of keeping

zero hour contracts, not banning zero hour contracts, not banning zero hour contracts, banning fire and rehire, which i don't think that's a bad thing. i think that's a bad thing. i think you shouldn't be able to do that. >> i think if he makes a pledge and people vote on his pledges, i think he needs to have the courage of his conviction, whether it's popular or will he draw back before the election or will he draw back after? >> well, he'd have to be honest about what he's doing in your point about the pledge. >> well, listen, this show is nothing without you and your views. let's welcome some of our great british voices, their opportunity to be on the show and tell us what they really think about the topics we're discussing. i've got how many of you? i've got four of you today. three of you even. i'm going to start with you, julie ford. what do you think then? is keir right to u—turn on this policy that says that he's going to ban fire and rehire and ban zero hours contracts? >> i don't think he's right to u—turn. >> no. i mean, it's about time we had politicians that actually stuck to the things that they said they were going to do. we haven't yet had a, somebody in charge of the country that's actually managed to do that. we've seen it only just recently with the tories and the renters reform bill. we've just had, you

know, 200 amendments to that. so it no longer looks like it used to. but i agree that's a good thing, isn't it? >> but that's a good thing, isn't it? i mean, it was a pretty dodgy bill wasn't it. oh that's a whole different. >> that's a whole different subject. >> yeah, but but if he's, if he's u—turning on something that's bad , is that not a good thing. >> no. absolutely. and any bill that goes through parliament or any policy has to be balanced for, for the people that it's going to either protect or support. and i think that's the thing with, with politicians, they they have these great ideas, these manifestos. but when the civil servants actually get down to writing these policies and writing those bills , that's when it starts to be a work in progress. and we need to see it being more balanced. sometimes these things won't work. it was a great idea on the back of an envelope, but in process it won't work for the people. but let me get let me contract. >> let me get to alan cook. i hear what you're saying, alan cook. your turn. alan, what do you think? >> hi there. nana. well, quickly. >> i'd just like to say thank you to the 27,603 people that voted for me yesterday in the

london assembly from the boroughs of bexley and bromley. >> so thank you for that. >> so thank you for that. >> but , the well, keir starmer >> but, the well, keir starmer and the labour party, well i'll let you into a secret. >> the, the unions and the hard left have a time machine. and the trouble is it's broken. it'll only take you back to 1970 and that's it. and this is pretty much what they will do. you know, you just mentioned your guest just mentioned the one of the car factories, the british leyland factory. they used to take sleeping bags into work with them and they used to sleep there , they couldn't fire sleep there, they couldn't fire them. and, you know, that is if we if we go down that route again, then it will destroy the economy. even more than than it's being destroyed at the moment. we've seen, we've seen over the last we've seen what's happened over the last year or so. 50. >> so. >> it's not going to have to move on. i'm going to have to go to leigh webb. leigh you know what? >> i'm totally against zero hour contracts anyhow because it gives me flexibility when i teach my classes. so i teach number classes per week . number classes per week. >> it gives me flexibility and it also gives my company

flexibility vie that i work for, because they can get rid of me if i'm not performing, so hang on, you said you're totally against them. >> what labour needs to do if they're against zero hour contracts, they need to put that in the manifesto and they need to stick with it. and that's what i'm getting confused with a lot of these, parties that they have a manifesto . in 19 2019, have a manifesto. in 19 2019, when we had the last election, i think it was, we're not stuck to the manifesto. >> well, that's that's what that's what dooley was saying. ultimately, if they're going to tell you they're going to do something, stick to it. so we know what we're voting for. otherwise, if you keep just reversing things so nobody knows what they're up to. and that has been why sir keir starmer got himself the name of sir flip flop. thank you very much to judy ford. there in bedfordshire, alan cook in london and leigh webb in bedfordshire. thank you so much. coming up though, this week's clip, bates , don't you make me clip, bates, don't you make me dizzy from your kisses. >> will you take my hand ? and >> will you take my hand? and it's bendy. >> yes. this was, this year's

eurovision contestant. olly alexander. next, though on the way supplement sunday, when my panel and i discussed some of the top

eye. 51 minutes after 5:00. it's time for clip bait. just take a look or listen to this . or listen to this. >> won't you make me dizzy from your kisses? >> will you take my hand ? and >> will you take my hand? and it's spinning round and round . it's spinning round and round. until the moment never ends. make me dizzy from your kisses . make me dizzy from your kisses. will you take my hand . take me will you take my hand. take me back to the begin singing again , back to the begin singing again, again and again. >> yeah. that is britain's eurovision contest,

>> yeah. that is britain's eurovision contest , contestant eurovision contest, contestant olly alexander without. what's that thing? auto—tune i think that thing? auto—tune i think that must be it. and that's his song. dizzy. he's wearing like a bra top type thing because he's non—binary. >> he's not. i'd be careful. it's not because he's transitioning and he's beginning. no, no, he's non—binary, so he's not either. thatis non—binary, so he's not either. that is that is really it? >> rmt. that is it. danny, give me cliff. >> richard , sandie shaw and >> richard, sandie shaw and puppet on a string and congratulations and all that for once, if you're listening on radio, you've dodged a bullet with gb news because you didn't see the most effeminate guy dancing around with a union jack bra , surrounded by like minded bra, surrounded by like minded young, semi—naked men . young, semi—naked men. >> so if you listen on radio, congratulations, it's the first time you've benefited from not watching this. >> some people would say they want to watch that. but danny kelly, i believe that's the best this country , that's all. this country, that's all. >> we always do it honestly, right. >> it's time now for this week's supplement sunday, where we talk about some of the news stories that caught our eye. danny kelly, i'm going to take you up to the fine city of liverpool, my hometown . my hometown. >> and this is what happens when you reach a certain age in life and you realise if you live in a

suburb of a big city like liverpool, where people , people liverpool, where people, people move a transient community and where homes are converted into homes of multiple occupancy to maybe cater for people coming into the country. point. the point is, is that when you reach 70 and 80 and you walk out your front door, it's unrecognisable label. and this is happening all around the country, in northern towns and northern cities, small towns and northern cities, small towns and northern cities, small towns and cities. and this is a woman who's 80 and she says, i'm 80. what the hell can i do ? i'm 80. what the hell can i do? i'm too old to move. it's unrecognisable. >> sorry, i forgot your name. lizzie. lizzie cundy . christine hamilton. >> i don't mind at all. i think she would be absolutely horrified if you thought there was any. anyway, i know we're on a time pressure. this is from the sunday times. the french have a cure for too much screen time for kids. this is a teacher . they have to hand their phones in. he checks how much phone time they've spent . if they have time they've spent. if they have spent four hours and no more in the whole of the preceding week, they're clear. if they have spent five hours, they get an hour of detention. if they have spent six hours, that's in a whole week . they get two hours whole week. they get two hours detention. and so it goes on and

it works. apparently, the pupils agree with it . the parents, he agree with it. the parents, he says they're too fat. he's a p.e. says they're too fat. he's a pe. teacher and they should get p.e. teacher and they should get off their phones. no. >> well, you see, it works. all ihave >> well, you see, it works. all i have to say to my daughter is bnng i have to say to my daughter is bring me your smartphone. whoa that's the end. it works like a treat, mother. i do. gosh well, listen this out. if you just join me during the show, we've been asking, should labour u—turn on workers rights and plans? according to our twitter poll, 50.5% of you say yes, 49.5% of you say no . and then 49.5% of you say no. and then earlier in the show, i asked, is this a wake up call for the tory party is this what they needed? according to our twitter poll, 75.5% of you say yes, they did, and 44.5% of you say no . well, and 44.5% of you say no. well, listen, thank you so much to my panel listen, thank you so much to my panel, author and broadcaster christine hamilton. christine, thank you so much. and also broadcaster and journalist janet danny kelly for joining broadcaster and journalist janet danny kelly forjoining me. and also thank you to you at for home your company. i'll leave you with neil oliver. i'll see you with neil oliver. i'll see you next week. same time , same you next week. same time, same place three on saturday. enjoy >> looks like things are heating

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